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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver





Some Tomb World in some galaxy by that one thing in that one place (or Minnesota for nosy people)

Just a fun list I made that kinda abuses the KFF FAQ let me know what you think.

HQ
Imotekh the Stormlord

Veiltek
Chronotek
Stormtek
Stormtek

ELITES
5 Deathmarks

TROOPS
5 Immortals
Tesla Carbine

5 Warriors
NS

5 Warriors
NS

HEAVY SUPPORT
Monolith
Monolith
Monolith

HQ
Big Mek
KFF

TROOPS
29 Slugga Boyz
Nob PK BP

HEAVY SUPPORT
2 Lobbas
4 Gretchin
3 Ammo Runts

According to the FAQ the big mek KFF effects everything in range (even enemies) because it doesn't specify what it effects. So the plan is to hide him in the block of 30 boyz and form a wall of monoliths with a 5+ cover boosted by Imotekh's nightfighting so on average a 4+ cover save. The chronotek goes with immortals and imotekh to keep nightfighting going. Veiltek goes with the Deathmarks for some HQ headhunting for a quick warlord kill. Stormtek goes with warriors in NS for tank hunting when neccessary. Lobbas sit behind the monoliths initially and lob over the monoliths. Its kind if a gimmicky list but its fun for what it can do

"Put your 1st best against you opponents 2nd best, your 2nd best against their 3rd best, and your 3rd best against their 1st best"-Sun Tzu's Art of War

"If your not winning, try a bigger sword! Usually works..."

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If its just for funzies, should take DA, get a librarian with personal field and get a 4+ invo on the monoliths.
   
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...you have 30 boyz that will be doing absolutely nothing, 3 bricks that will still get popped regardless from suicide meltaguns, and... 2 fliers?

You can do better.

 
   
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver





Some Tomb World in some galaxy by that one thing in that one place (or Minnesota for nosy people)

I'm pretty sure DA are either come the apoc or desperate allies so that will end up biting me in the butt later on. Also a PFG is only 3" so I can't really make a wall with the monoliths and I will have to be very close together. With a KFF I have a bit more flexability for space


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 A sane man wrote:
...you have 30 boyz that will be doing absolutely nothing, 3 bricks that will still get popped regardless from suicide meltaguns, and... 2 fliers?

You can do better.


You sir are a genius I will look forward to more advice from you [sarcasm]

Its like if you said taking marines are useless because a heldrake will kill a squad in one shooting phase

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/08/28 21:53:24


"Put your 1st best against you opponents 2nd best, your 2nd best against their 3rd best, and your 3rd best against their 1st best"-Sun Tzu's Art of War

"If your not winning, try a bigger sword! Usually works..."

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Dis filfy git wantz ta know?

 A sane man wrote:
...you have 30 boyz that will be doing absolutely nothing, 3 bricks that will still get popped regardless from suicide meltaguns, and... 2 fliers?

You can do better.


ok i choose not to fight IG and the fun shall continue ^.^ i think would be more effective to put the boyz in a bw with the mek and a nob to keep the boyz safe and still add insult to injury!

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"Orkses never lose a battle. If we win we win, if we die we die fightin so it don't count if we runs for it we don't die neiher,
Cos we can come back for annuver go,
 
   
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Some Tomb World in some galaxy by that one thing in that one place (or Minnesota for nosy people)

 Orkimedezz wrote:
 A sane man wrote:
...you have 30 boyz that will be doing absolutely nothing, 3 bricks that will still get popped regardless from suicide meltaguns, and... 2 fliers?

You can do better.


ok i choose not to fight IG and the fun shall continue ^.^ i think would be more effective to put the boyz in a bw with the mek and a nob to keep the boyz safe and still add insult to injury!


I considered a BW but I figured that I will never get to take advantage of that av 14 if I am behind monoliths and the KFF does not reach over one monolith so I can't keep it in between them either

"Put your 1st best against you opponents 2nd best, your 2nd best against their 3rd best, and your 3rd best against their 1st best"-Sun Tzu's Art of War

"If your not winning, try a bigger sword! Usually works..."

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Dis filfy git wantz ta know?

 A GumyBear wrote:
 Orkimedezz wrote:
 A sane man wrote:
...you have 30 boyz that will be doing absolutely nothing, 3 bricks that will still get popped regardless from suicide meltaguns, and... 2 fliers?

You can do better.


ok i choose not to fight IG and the fun shall continue ^.^ i think would be more effective to put the boyz in a bw with the mek and a nob to keep the boyz safe and still add insult to injury!


I considered a BW but I figured that I will never get to take advantage of that av 14 if I am behind monoliths and the KFF does not reach over one monolith so I can't keep it in between them either


i would stick to keeping the boyz in a truck than. save your points and use the orks what you are trying to get out of them rather than waste points on useless stuff "extra boyz,Lobbas"


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 Orkimedezz wrote:
 A GumyBear wrote:
 Orkimedezz wrote:
 A sane man wrote:
...you have 30 boyz that will be doing absolutely nothing, 3 bricks that will still get popped regardless from suicide meltaguns, and... 2 fliers?

You can do better.


ok i choose not to fight IG and the fun shall continue ^.^ i think would be more effective to put the boyz in a bw with the mek and a nob to keep the boyz safe and still add insult to injury!


I considered a BW but I figured that I will never get to take advantage of that av 14 if I am behind monoliths and the KFF does not reach over one monolith so I can't keep it in between them either


i would stick to keeping the boyz in a truck than. save your points and use the orks what you are trying to get out of them rather than waste points on useless stuff "extra boyz,Lobbas"


also the KFF extends out from the Bw giving all units the KFF touch's a 5+ cover save vehicles as well according to the resent ork FAQ.
and if you wanna argue it doesn't give a % to vehicles from the edge of a Bw going around ik you can get at least 50% of each mono the 5+ cover inside the 6" range
even though when ur within the 6" range you are counted as being obscured

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/08/28 22:13:55


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Cos we can come back for annuver go,
 
   
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 A GumyBear wrote:
I'm pretty sure DA are either come the apoc or desperate allies so that will end up biting me in the butt later on. Also a PFG is only 3" so I can't really make a wall with the monoliths and I will have to be very close together. With a KFF I have a bit more flexability for space


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 A sane man wrote:
...you have 30 boyz that will be doing absolutely nothing, 3 bricks that will still get popped regardless from suicide meltaguns, and... 2 fliers?

You can do better.


You sir are a genius I will look forward to more advice from you [sarcasm]

Its like if you said taking marines are useless because a heldrake will kill a squad in one shooting phase



...only nearly every army has a variant of the meltagun.

Not to mention that lobbas are blast, and so require line of sight from the gun and crew member so they can't fire over the monolith.
scratch that, BRB updated that. Footboyz are deadboyz, and frankly, the use of NS for your warriors makes monoliths even more useless than they already are. If you could get wraiths or something to mix up the target priority then maybe this could work.

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Some Tomb World in some galaxy by that one thing in that one place (or Minnesota for nosy people)

 A sane man wrote:
 A GumyBear wrote:
I'm pretty sure DA are either come the apoc or desperate allies so that will end up biting me in the butt later on. Also a PFG is only 3" so I can't really make a wall with the monoliths and I will have to be very close together. With a KFF I have a bit more flexability for space


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 A sane man wrote:
...you have 30 boyz that will be doing absolutely nothing, 3 bricks that will still get popped regardless from suicide meltaguns, and... 2 fliers?

You can do better.


You sir are a genius I will look forward to more advice from you [sarcasm]

Its like if you said taking marines are useless because a heldrake will kill a squad in one shooting phase



...only nearly every army has a variant of the meltagun.

Not to mention that lobbas are blast, and so require line of sight from the gun and crew member so they can't fire over the monolith.
scratch that, BRB updated that. Footboyz are deadboyz, and frankly, the use of NS for your warriors makes monoliths even more useless than they already are. If you could get wraiths or something to mix up the target priority then maybe this could work.


Lobbas never needed LoS they have always beem barrage even before 6th. Footboyz behind a wall of monoliths with a 4+ average cover are hardly dead boyz. The use of NS are great for my monoliths because now when my NS drop out of the sky because they aren't indistructable I have another method of getting them onto the board. Bringing wraithwing is either too expensive to still keep the list or is too small to make an impact and will just get shot to bits

"Put your 1st best against you opponents 2nd best, your 2nd best against their 3rd best, and your 3rd best against their 1st best"-Sun Tzu's Art of War

"If your not winning, try a bigger sword! Usually works..."

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Footboyz. Wall of monoliths.
Wall.
Boyz.

Something is wrong here.

Seriously put them in some sort of transport.

my NS drop out of the sky because they aren't indistructable I have another method of getting them onto the board.


You're doing it wrong. This doesn't benefit the theme of the list, really the opposite. Your bricks are seemingly the theme, so why not get a C'tan Lord of Flame to ease the counter on your list?

If you want the NSs, why not just run 3 dakkajets with them? That adds to that theme.

 
   
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Disguised Speculo





Take Grot Bomm Launchas for the Orks, and theme them as Nukes. Thats in with the theme and gives some long range barrage power.
   
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Dis filfy git wantz ta know?

 A sane man wrote:
Footboyz. Wall of monoliths.
Wall.
Boyz.

Something is wrong here.

Seriously put them in some sort of transport.

my NS drop out of the sky because they aren't indistructable I have another method of getting them onto the board.


You're doing it wrong. This doesn't benefit the theme of the list, really the opposite. Your bricks are seemingly the theme, so why not get a C'tan Lord of Flame to ease the counter on your list?

If you want the NSs, why not just run 3 dakkajets with them? That adds to that theme.


well the orks are the allie here.
i think putting them in a battlewagon in the middle of all 3 monos could make a great wall. and once one gets punched and dies move the battlewagon up.
once your in range than the mek has done his job and send em out to fight!
i feel the list lacks shooting but eh we got a problem here. 3monos is pretty costly point sink so your heavy supp is all gone.

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"Orkses never lose a battle. If we win we win, if we die we die fightin so it don't count if we runs for it we don't die neiher,
Cos we can come back for annuver go,
 
   
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Some Tomb World in some galaxy by that one thing in that one place (or Minnesota for nosy people)

 Dakkamite wrote:
Take Grot Bomm Launchas for the Orks, and theme them as Nukes. Thats in with the theme and gives some long range barrage power.


I would love grot bombs but sadly no FW


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 A sane man wrote:
so why not get a C'tan Lord of Flame to ease the counter on your list?

If you want the NSs, why not just run 3 dakkajets with them? That adds to that theme.


Because Ctan are overpriced for what they do and if I'm gonna pay 210 for a crap power that can be counteracted by moving slightly to the left or right of a monolith I may as well say screw points I'm bringing titans.

And I can't bring 3 dakkajets in an allies chart.

You seem to have very little grasp on what this list is and what it is meant to do


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 Orkimedezz wrote:

i think putting them in a battlewagon in the middle of all 3 monos could make a great wall. and once one gets punched and dies move the battlewagon up.
once your in range than the mek has done his job and send em out to fight!
i feel the list lacks shooting but eh we got a problem here. 3monos is pretty costly point sink so your heavy supp is all gone.


I already explained that if I put a BW with a KFF in between the monoliths I will only be in range of two of them, if I put it behind them then thr whole purpose is ruined since it will be moving a slow 6" a turn and will have its non av 14 sides exposed.

As for shooting we have the Monoliths and lobbas with the added on NS and imotekhs nightfighting with some snipers from the deathmarks and the flamer from the cryptek. Then we got all the AT firepower from the stormteks and a little bit of tesla from the immortals

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/08/29 01:01:20


"Put your 1st best against you opponents 2nd best, your 2nd best against their 3rd best, and your 3rd best against their 1st best"-Sun Tzu's Art of War

"If your not winning, try a bigger sword! Usually works..."

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Dis filfy git wantz ta know?

I already explained that if I put a BW with a KFF in between the monoliths I will only be in range of two of them, if I put it behind them then thr whole purpose is ruined since it will be moving a slow 6" a turn and will have its non av 14 sides exposed.

why not at this point run 3battlewagons with deffrollas with a mek inside one for cheaper than. screw monos they to slow for my brain to handle!
3deffrollas will be much more useful than 3 pyramids floating around having fun dancing to shimishimi cocopuff

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"Orkses never lose a battle. If we win we win, if we die we die fightin so it don't count if we runs for it we don't die neiher,
Cos we can come back for annuver go,
 
   
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Some Tomb World in some galaxy by that one thing in that one place (or Minnesota for nosy people)

Cuz I prefer necrons over orks.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/08/29 01:09:31


"Put your 1st best against you opponents 2nd best, your 2nd best against their 3rd best, and your 3rd best against their 1st best"-Sun Tzu's Art of War

"If your not winning, try a bigger sword! Usually works..."

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 A GumyBear wrote:


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 A sane man wrote:
so why not get a C'tan Lord of Flame to ease the counter on your list?

If you want the NSs, why not just run 3 dakkajets with them? That adds to that theme.


Because Ctan are overpriced for what they do and if I'm gonna pay 210 for a crap power that can be counteracted by moving slightly to the left or right of a monolith I may as well say screw points I'm bringing titans.

And I can't bring 3 dakkajets in an allies chart.

You seem to have very little grasp on what this list is and what it is meant to do


The point of the list is clearly to make the undying wall that slowly moves forward.

Which means as much investment in defense as possible.

You know, you should get those spyders in there. 'cause you know, they can repair. 3 would be awesome.
And drop those deathmarks, they're useless for this.

You know what this needs? 3 C'tan, 3 monoliths, 3 spyders.



 
   
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Some Tomb World in some galaxy by that one thing in that one place (or Minnesota for nosy people)

Not sure where I am allowed to break the force org to get 3 monoliths and 3 spyders. And what would 3 ctan do for me? I only have one with lord of fire the other two will be dinking around doing nothing but sucking up my points

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/08/29 01:11:48


"Put your 1st best against you opponents 2nd best, your 2nd best against their 3rd best, and your 3rd best against their 1st best"-Sun Tzu's Art of War

"If your not winning, try a bigger sword! Usually works..."

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Dis filfy git wantz ta know?

 A GumyBear wrote:
Not sure where I am allowed to break the force org to get 3 monoliths and 3 spyders. And what would 3 ctan do for me? I only have one with lord of fire the other two will be dinking around doing nothing but sucking up my points


you can in fun games.
and this is a fun list so why not make it fun! why cant we just all have a party throwing are bombardment dice everywhere and go buy all the D20s in the world and play this game with entirely d20s!
just like the GW store managers say just throw dice everywhere and have a great time just playing the game with you cool models!
lets just show up to GTs with are Squats and show these kids how its done!

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"Orkses never lose a battle. If we win we win, if we die we die fightin so it don't count if we runs for it we don't die neiher,
Cos we can come back for annuver go,
 
   
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Some Tomb World in some galaxy by that one thing in that one place (or Minnesota for nosy people)

@ Orkimedezz I'm trying to get serious help not a bunch of nonsense, leave ur sillyness at a different thread please

"Put your 1st best against you opponents 2nd best, your 2nd best against their 3rd best, and your 3rd best against their 1st best"-Sun Tzu's Art of War

"If your not winning, try a bigger sword! Usually works..."

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Dis filfy git wantz ta know?

 A GumyBear wrote:
@ Orkimedezz I'm trying to get serious help not a bunch of nonsense, leave ur sillyness at a different thread please


yes boss.

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We Green And Not Very Clean!

"Orkses never lose a battle. If we win we win, if we die we die fightin so it don't count if we runs for it we don't die neiher,
Cos we can come back for annuver go,
 
   
 
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