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Trying to get excited about my seer council again and came up with this one two punch.

HQ = 730
Farseer, jetbike, singing spear
Farseer, jetbike, singing spear
Spiriteer
jetlock X8, singing spear X4

Troops = 725
Dire Avengers X5, Wave Serpent, SL, SC, HF
Dire Avengers X5, Wave Serpent, SL, SC, HF
Wraithguard X5, Wave Serpent, SL, SC, HF

Heavy = 210
3x War Walker w/ BLx2

AHQ = 105
Baron

ATroops = 230
KWarriors X5, Venom, SC, GT
KWarriors X5, Venom, SC, GT
==============================
2000 points (37 models, 8 vehicles).

Baron joins the seer council. One venom into reserves, the other follows in trace of the council.

Meanwhile the Serpents and War Walkers take it to enemy units. I understand that Venoms are easy to bring down, but do you worry about a single venom or the Wave Serpents that are breathing down your neck and systematically dismantling your army? Also, positioned next to the council, I would think that the Venom’s priority drops down the list. But in case one goes down, the other is in reserve and takes its place if it needs to, or plays jetbike and races to an objective later in the game.

Also, before it comes up…this is written for 2000 pts, NOT 1999+1, so yes, this is a double FOC as allowed per RAW on p110.

I thought about bringing a Fire Prism in the heavy slot, but that leaves an odd 70 points left to spend. And Prisms seem better in pairs anyways. I suppose I could add two units of 5-man warp spiders instead of the War Walkers.

Thoughts?

Ummm, nice list and all, but wrong place? Possibly?

Oh wow, not a model nor paint in sight!

Hmm...mods, can you help me out and put this in the right forum? I must have hit enter on the wrong page that I had open.

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you need 4 troops choices from your primary detatchment to unlock a second force org? Because I only see 3 eldar troops

Good catch! Not sure how I missed that. It's usually the first thing that I check. Too close to see the forest from the trees I suppose. Easy fix though.


HQ = 735
Farseer, jetbike, singing spear
Farseer, jetbike, singing spear
Spiriteer
jetlock X8, singing spear X5

Troops = 786
Dire Avengers X5, Wave Serpent, SL, SC, HF
Dire Avengers X5, Wave Serpent, SL, SC, HF
Wraithguard X5, Wave Serpent, SL, SC, HF
Windrider X3, SC X1

Heavy = 140
2x War Walker w/ BLx2

AHQ = 105
Baron

ATroops = 230
KWarriors X5, Venom, SC, GT
KWarriors X5, Venom, SC, GT
==============================
1996 points (40 models, 7 vehicles).


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Windriders go to the reserves and play their usual shenanigans.

list looks pretty fun., however the only thing i dont like is the lack of anti air other than that i like it might have to play with this list

Looks really solid. A little light against AV14 but you don't see much of that. If you get Fortune that's pretty much game with 2++ reroll able at front and 2+AS and 2+CS all rerollable after that...

Should do well. Personally I'd start both Venoms on the board unless you're going 2nd. I wouldn't bother with trophies or the cannon on the bikes. Drop them for blasters on the kabalites.

trophies on the venoms have awesome synergy with the warlocks. The reroll means that the warlocks are getting their powers off 92% of the time. Not bad for a 10 point investment on an allied troop that you need to take anyways.

Yeah forgot trophies worked on battle brothers

I am thinking do you need all 8 Warlocks? What powers are you hoping for or are they ablative wounds? I mean yes your looking for protect for a 2+ armour, and your *Going* to get conceal, do you need anything else? So what i would suggest is dropping off 2 warlockswith spears to free up 110pts so you can drop both War Walkers (140pts) for 2 Fire Prisms (250pts) that would give you a much needed anti MEQ boost (All you have is drowning them in wounds) as well as good anti tank. It also will draw fire away from your precious troop carrying serpents.

My £0.02

I'm guessing horrify and Jinx are the other powers he wants. Plus he's creating a deathstar skimping on wounds is a bad idea.

He is having at *Least* 2 types of 2+ re-rollables from Baron and jink + stealth and shrouded. Thats 15 wounds, so thats 540 bolter wounds to kill the unit. Getting drowned to death is the least of his worries.