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Hello Dakka Dakka! Over some spare hours i managed to brew up this here Nurgle themed list

HQ -
Typhus
-230

HQ - Daemon Prince of Nurgle
Power Armour
Wings
Murder Sword
-255pts


Elites - 5x Chaos Chosen
4x Meltas
1x Combi-Melta (On Champion)
Mark of Nurgle
Rhino W/ Dozer
-208

Troops -

20x Chaos Cultists
Autoguns
Flamer X 2
Champion W/ Shotgun
Mark of Nurgle
-152pts

20x Chaos Cultists
Autoguns
Flamer X 2
Champion W/ Shotgun
Mark of Nurgle
-152pts

8x Plague Marines
2 Plasma Guns
Champion Power Fist
Rhino W/ Dozer
-297pts

8x Plague Marines
2 Meltas
Champion Power Fist
Rhino W/ Dozer
-287pts


Fast Attack - /

Heavy Support -

Havoc Squad
4 Autocannon
-115pts

Havoc Squad
4 Autocannon
-115pts

Havoc Squad
4 Autocannon
-115pts

The Havocs will be used for long ranged fire support, TEQ and Anti air, The plague marines are self explanitory (direct combat) while the cultists will be for pulling enemy infantry off objectives (2 flamers coupled with a shotgun and 17 autoguns) and then taking said objective, if not an objective game then just a little more meat on the army. The Chosen are the suicidal anit tank unit who should hopefully pull down several tanks before they're demise. I'm honestly not sure why i took these 2 HQ's though, although typhus' destroyer hive could prove useful against hordes. Overall this is 1926 points, i'm not particularly sure what to upgrade or add, perhaps some mastery levels on the prince? Thanks for any feedback where possible!

I would drop the power fist from the sgts. They will just get challenged out and die to any thing that is decent enough to kill a marine.

Unless you are just really a fan of chosen I would either drop them (as they are a bit over priced). They can kill something well with 5 meltas but it will be hard to get there.

I would instead of the chosen add a helldrake. They are just too insane for CSM not to take. I would consider with the savings from the 2 power fists and maybe dropping 1 of the havocs and taking a 2nd drake.

The problem with nurgle (even with cultists) is that you are basically always out numbered as they are so expensive. The drakes help to thing out hoards of ememies. They also are decent anti flyer as they can vector strike. They also ignore cover with the flamer which crushes aline gun line type lists or clears people from objectives.

Also I wouldnt give any upgrades to the cultists. They just die. I would take 20 for 90 pts straight up. Your paying 304 points for 40 wounds with basically las guns and you could take 60 wounds for 270! and add another scoring unit to boot!

Also why typhus? I think you should just take a chaos lord that also unlocked plague marines. He is expensive, and I know he makes the zombies plague what ever, but its not as good as you think. Also he would have to walk with the cultists which is ok but basically it will take several turns for him to reach combat and do anything at all.

I would rather you took the chaos lord and put him in the rhino with some of the plague marines. Maybe give him the burning brand for some extra damage in one of the plague units.

Also 8 plague marines is alot. I prefer 6 or 7. I know this limits ther damage output but really 1-2 bolters isnt a big deal.

I would rather you had 3 6 mans with 2 special weapons each. One of these (flamers maybe) could include the lord with the brand for may fire goodness!

Just a few ideas of mine. I think your list isnt terrible or anything but definetely isnt maximized either.

Sounds like a good plan to me! I'll thin down the cultists and plague marines, add a drake and swap typhus for a lord. I honestly didn't account for challenges because my friends and i still play 5th, but i'm going to change to the 6th edition rulebook, do you think a power sword would do better? That and, do you think you could give me a link to a pretty decent chaos list so that i can build off that. And i'll take you're ideas into account and fix up the list when i get some spare time

Nurgle bikers are REALLY good. T6 with at 26pts each is too good to pass up.

Switch out the murder sword for the black mace.

Ok, how about this?

HQ -

Chaos lord
Mark of nurgle
-80

Daemon Prince of Nurgle
Power Armour
Wings
Black Mace
-255pts


Elites -

5x Chaos Chosen
4x Meltas
1x Combi-Melta (On Champion)
Mark of Nurgle
Rhino W/ Dozer
-208

Troops -

20x Chaos Cultists
Autoguns
-109

20x Chaos Cultists
Autoguns
-109

6x Plague Marines
2x Plasma Guns
Plague champion W/ Power Sword
Rhino W/ Dozer
- 229

6x Plague Marines
2x Plasma Guns
Plague champion W/ Power Sword
Rhino W/ Dozer
- 229

6x Plague Marines
2x Meltas
Plague champion W/ Power Sword
Rhino W/ Dozer
- 219

Fast Attack - /

Heavy Support -

Havoc Squad
4 Autocannon
-115pts

Havoc Squad
4 Autocannon
-115pts

Havoc Squad
4 Autocannon
-115pts

-1783

The tactica would be the same as explained earlier, how would you suggest outfitting the lord, and honest to god, i really don't want to take a heldrake, is there any other unit i could use effectively to take out hordes? Mostly because i want to make a unique army that is still competitive, I've got all those autocannon for AA and other support, perhaps khorne bikers or terminators could do good against horde?
If i really have to take a drake i will, but i'm really not interested in them to be entirely honest

Other than that, i have about 220 points spare, what else is pretty decent?

The black Mace is actually good against hordes. You charge and challenge the character. When the character dies Half the squad goes away because of the curse rule.

Hopefully the squad doesn't break and on their turn you clean up the rest of the squad.

For other hordes if you want to stay fluffy get some nurgle bikers with flamers and give your lord a bike and burning brand.

I really like your list. I think the chosen, while expensive, will draw fire away from your daemon prince and plague marines during the early turns because no one wants 5 melta shots in their front yard. If they get a kill on any tanks or TEQ I would consider that a bonus.

One thing I would change though, Plague Marines are i3, you might as well change the power swords to power axes as you'll probably be hitting last anyway.

For the remaining 220 points you could do as coreyzat suggested and give your lord a bike with some nurgle bikers as escort. That is a tough as nails unit that will cause a ton of wounds against horde armies.

Good luck!

HQ -

Chaos lord
Mark of nurgle
Bike
Burning Brand
-160

Daemon Prince of Nurgle
Power Armour
Wings
Black Mace
3 Mastery Levels
-330pts


Elites -

5x Chaos Chosen
4x Meltas
1x Combi-Melta (On Champion)
Mark of Nurgle
Rhino W/ Dozer
-208

Troops -

20x Chaos Cultists
Autoguns
-109

20x Chaos Cultists
Autoguns
-109

6x Plague Marines
2x Plasma Guns
Plague champion W/ Power Axe, Combi-Bolter, Melta Bombs
Rhino W/ Dozer
-222

6x Plague Marines
2x Meltas
Plague champion W/ Melta Bombs
Rhino W/ Dozer
-209

6x Plague Marines
2x Meltas
Plague champion W/ Melta Bombs
Rhino W/ Dozer
-209

Fast Attack -

3x Chaos Bikers
Mark of Nurgle
2 Flamers in place of CCW
-98

Heavy Support -

Havoc Squad
4 Autocannon
-115pts

Havoc Squad
4 Autocannon
-115pts

Havoc Squad
4 Autocannon
-115pts


-1999

Tactics are the same as before, i changed to power axe as jitactical mentioned, i added Melta bombs to the plague marines to help with Land raiders or other heavy vehicles.

How is the list now? Do you think this would be competitive and all comer? Thanks for any help!

I will start work on the list at the end of the week, Anyone got any opinions on the new list?

The list looks pretty good to me. The only thing I'd consider would be a power weapon of some sort for your lord in case he gets caught in combat (flamer units will be close to be effective) as well as an invul save for him.

If your local meta has a lot of power armor then VOtLW is nice to have.

Ok, well i shall steal the plasma plague champion's power axe and give it to the lord, Anything else i should do?