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2013/09/01 00:40:11
Subject: Alternative Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Houston, Texas
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OK I hate the current Daemon prince, and Greater Daemon models. I know about Ultraforge and I have the Vrok. What else is there?
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Finally found my quote from a gym buddy born and raised in South Korea:
"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
"It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag." |
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2013/09/01 02:29:02
Subject: Re:Alternative Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes
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Tea-Kettle of Blood
Adelaide, South Australia
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There's this guy from Heresy Miniatures. Reaper's got some stuff too.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/09/01 02:30:55
 Ailaros wrote:You know what really bugs me? When my opponent, before they show up at the FLGS smears themselves in peanut butter and then makes blood sacrifices to Ashterai by slitting the throat of three male chickens and then smears the spatter pattern into the peanut butter to engrave sacred symbols into their chest and upper arms.
I have a peanut allergy. It's really inconsiderate.
"Long ago in a distant land, I, M'kar, the shape-shifting Master of Chaos, unleashed an unspeakable evil! But a foolish Grey Knight warrior wielding a magic sword stepped forth to oppose me. Before the final blow was struck, I tore open a portal in space and flung him into the Warp, where my evil is law! Now the fool seeks to return to real-space, and undo the evil that is Chaos!" |
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2013/09/01 03:20:51
Subject: Re:Alternative Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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I use the Forge World Great Uclean One (as a GUO...derrrr), the Ultraforge Greater War daemon (as a Bloodthirster), and I converted my own Lord of Change (use him as Kairos) from an assortment of parts.
I'm currently trying to figure out what to use as a Keeper of Secrets. Thinking of building it off the beast men Ghorgon model, but we'll see.
The biggest thing that bugs me about the GW models is that they are absolutely tiny. The finecast Bloodthirster is smaller then the plastic Daemon Prince 
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 Daemons--5000
 Death Guard --2000
 Daemons--15000
 Word Bearers--10000
Total investment in the Forces of Chaos: 38,000
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2013/09/01 03:26:32
Subject: Alternative Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Well to be fair the sculpt is bloody Ancient...
The GD really really need some new sculpt.
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts 
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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2013/09/01 03:48:06
Subject: Alternative Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes
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Been Around the Block
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How big are those reaper minis? Some of those guys look like they'd be great chaos spawn. However, none of them appear to be in the price range I'd expect for a greater daemon size model.
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2013/09/01 04:17:49
Subject: Alternative Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Some are fair-sized.
A lot of Reaper stuff is Bones these days, which makes them pretty cheap. I use their Great Worm model as Spawn 
They stand about 7-8 CM i think. Pretty biggish.
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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2013/09/01 04:19:56
Subject: Alternative Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes
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Major
Fortress of Solitude
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The forgeworld versions for the GUO, BT, LoC, and KoS are all pretty sweet if pricey.
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2013/09/01 05:19:31
Subject: Alternative Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Houston, Texas
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They're overly priced. Yeah.
The Ultraforge are similar size and detail and are $60 bucks a pop. This is why I'm looking for alternatives.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/09/01 05:19:42
Finally found my quote from a gym buddy born and raised in South Korea:
"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
"It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag." |
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2013/09/01 05:37:56
Subject: Re:Alternative Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes
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Deranged Necron Destroyer
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Here's a list on Throne of Skulls of 3rd party models. That should do it for you.
http://www.throneofskulls.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2707
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2013/09/01 10:55:11
Subject: Re:Alternative Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes
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Brigadier General
The new Sick Man of Europe
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For the KOS I'd probably recomend the FW models.
and I agree the design teams need some new models.
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2013/09/01 11:00:25
Subject: Alternative Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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Non FW count-as models will always have an issue with legality in tournaments sadly. Thats why i usually avoid using other models even though im an ork player and people do it all the time lol.
And yea the sculpt is ancient as hell. They should make a miniature model of this thing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=EvVNtEL6HGQ
If they managed to scale this to current Demon Prince scale and keep the detail though, i imagine it would cost like 90+ lol
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 14000pts Big 'n Bad Orkz
 6000pts Admech/Knights
 7500pts Necron Goldboys |
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2013/09/01 11:07:32
Subject: Re:Alternative Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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I've heard a few times of people using the LOTR Balrog model as a Bloodthirster stand-in. With a little work it makes a decent Daemon Prince too, as shown here:
As you can see, it's also roughly the right size too.
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 "Hard pressed on my right. My centre is yielding. Impossible to manoeuvre. Situation excellent. I am attacking." - General Ferdinand Foch |
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2013/09/01 11:45:18
Subject: Alternative Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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Yeah, and that would work even in a tourny since its still GW bitz lol rules dont specify "which game" the GW bitz came from Though its 60USD sadly lol
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/09/01 11:46:52
An ork with an idea tends to end with a bang.
14000pts Big 'n Bad Orkz
6000pts Admech/Knights
7500pts Necron Goldboys |
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2013/09/01 15:19:52
Subject: Alternative Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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Yeah, and the official Bloodthirster is 57.75 USD 
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Daemons--5000
Death Guard --2000
Daemons--15000
Word Bearers--10000
Total investment in the Forces of Chaos: 38,000
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2013/09/01 15:27:55
Subject: Alternative Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes
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Bloodthirsty Chaos Knight
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They're also at least 2 times larger than the regular models, probably more. Giving your opponent more body for more line of sight might be counter intuitive.
Here's An'ggrath the Unbound (because that's the only proper way to run him) and two regular Bloodthristers.
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Space Wolves: 3770
Orks: 3000
Chaos Daemons: 1750
Warriors of Chaos: 2000
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2013/09/05 16:52:17
Subject: Alternative Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes
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Furious Raptor
Fort Worth, TX
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OMG, I want to buy that Cthulhu looking dude from the Reaper site. That be such a great Daemon Prince!
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I  out with in both 40k and WHFB.
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2013/09/06 01:18:14
Subject: Alternative Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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The real Cthullu (the one from the kickstarter) is even better, b ut fething HUGE
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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2013/09/06 01:33:15
Subject: Alternative Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes
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Regular Dakkanaut
You'll find me in the mind's eye
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 Wilytank wrote:
They're also at least 2 times larger than the regular models, probably more. Giving your opponent more body for more line of sight might be counter intuitive.
Here's An'ggrath the Unbound (because that's the only proper way to run him) and two regular Bloodthristers.
His argument that the Ultraforge are 2/7 the price and the same size and similar detail is pretty good.
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2013/09/06 03:59:13
Subject: Alternative Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes
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Bloodthirsty Chaos Knight
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 TheSaintofKilllers wrote: Wilytank wrote:
They're also at least 2 times larger than the regular models, probably more. Giving your opponent more body for more line of sight might be counter intuitive.
Here's An'ggrath the Unbound (because that's the only proper way to run him) and two regular Bloodthristers.
His argument that the Ultraforge are 2/7 the price and the same size and similar detail is pretty good.
None of the two other guys in my quote train even mentioned Ultraforge.
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Space Wolves: 3770
Orks: 3000
Chaos Daemons: 1750
Warriors of Chaos: 2000
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2013/09/06 04:14:09
Subject: Re:Alternative Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes
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Stealthy Sanctus Slipping in His Blade
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WHFB Beastman Minotaurs work well. Still GW models, you can add wings from the DP or a set off of the Vargheist? kit. First is a Fateweaver "counts as" for my Beastman/Daemon army from the Minotaur kit, the second is a Bloodthirster "counts as" from a Beastman Doombull.
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A ton of armies and a terrain habit...
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