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Hello all,

I would like to get some opinions on my current 1k dual-wing tournament list I am planning to field in November at a friendly local tournament. Here it goes:


Belial /w sos/sb

Librarian (lvl1) /w bike and force axe (this will be my warlord for T5 and better trait rolling)

5 DWT, 1xth/ss, 1xLC, HF (Belial's unit)

5 DWT, 1xth/ss, PC (backfield camper boys)

4 Ravenwing black knights, 1x grenade launcher (Librarian unit)

Ravenwing darkshroud (bike support)


This list comes down to 998 points, where my tactics are to use bikes to pop transports or elites, belial to be able to take infantry blobs, and the last DW unit to provide fire support and jump into combat where help is needed (or camp on an objective).

What do you guys think about it?
Feel free to provide me with feedback on improving this.

regards,
Mortaal

Change the black knights to a command squad of 5 strong and drop the darkshroud maybe add a predator or we in there

Thanks for your reply Jpat.

With what exact reasons would you support your suggestions?
I know the knights are better in larger units, and the command unit is 10 points cheaper, If your change suggestions are made, I am left with 50 points in total, enough for a regular speeder I guess?

Belial /w sos/sb

Librarian (lvl1) /w bike and force axe

5 Ravenwing CMD squad, 1x grenade launcher

5 DWT, 1xth/ss, 1xLC, HF

5 DWT, 1xth/ss, PC

Land speeder??


let me know,
Mortaal

To clarify my list better I think it would be good to give you some information on the scenarios that will be played:

- Crusade
- Purge the alien
- The Scouring


Also, I have pondered over some more lists of my dualwing setup and here are some more options for you to discuss:

LIST 1:

Belial /w sos/sb

Librarian (lvl1) /w bike and force axe (this will be my warlord for T5 and better trait rolling)

5 RWC squad /w ravenwing banner, grenade launcher, champion, apothecary

5 DWT, 1xth/ss, 1xLC, HF (Belial's unit)

5 DWT, 1xth/ss, PC (backfield camper boys)



LIST 2:

Belial /w Sos/Sb

Librarian (lvl1) /w bike and force axe

5 RWC squad /w banner of retribution, grenade launcher, champion (librarian unit, ret banner to buff the incoming assault on my terminator squads)

5 DWT, 1xth/ss, 1xLC, HF (Belial's unit)

5 DWT, 1xth/ss, PC (backfield camper boys)


LIST 3:

Belial /w Sos/Sb

Librarian (lvl1) /w bike and force axe

5 RWC squad /w grenade launcher, champion

6 DWT, 1xth/ss, 1xLC, HF (Belial's unit)

5 DWT, 1xth/ss, PC (backfield camper boys)

Let me know what you think about these, and if you could support your changes and choices with argumentation that would be great, thanks!

regards,
Mortaal

Updated the last lists, would really want some more opinions of you experienced players out there.

thanks!
Mortaal

for a 1k list dualwing isnt going to be effective .... even at 1500 points it's rough due to low model count, you would be better off going pure bikes msu style or green wing taking cheap tactical squads for troops.

2 terminator squads are half your army and while terminator squads are good for taking punishment and distracting they really don't have the punch to make them worth it at lower levels due to their high points cost (and the plasma spamming / ap 2 of late).




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i've played pure deathwing / dual wing from 1500-2000 point variants and it always seems lacking this edition .... currently most of my armies are based around banner of devastation with land raiders or bikes.