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Made in us
Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot





Columbus, GA

How is this for a list?

Captain
Combi-grav
Power weapon
Auspex
120 pts

Librarian
Psyker
90 pts

Tac Squad (10 models)
ML w/ flakk
Plasmagun
180 pts

Tac Squad (10 models)
ML w/ flakk
Plasmagun
180 pts

Terminator Assault Squad
5 TH/SS
Land Raider
475 pts

Stormtalon
Typhoon ML
145 pts

Stormtalon
Typhoon ML
145 pts

Bike Squad
Plasma gun
Attack Bike w/ HB
133 pts

Devastator Squad
2 ML w/ flakk
2 LC
160 pts

Thunderfire Cannon
100 pts

Predator
TL LC
LC sponsons
140 pts

Total pts: 1868

I figure that leaves me some options to add a few points in wargear to bring it up to 2000, or dropping a few things or rearranging it to bring it down to 1500 or 1850.

Thoughts?

DaddyWarcrimes: "Playing IG means never having to use the end of a screwdriver to pound a nail because you always have the points to bring the hammer."
Valhalla130's Hobby Progress thread: Valhallans, 'Nids and Fists
 
   
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Agile Revenant Titan






Austin, Texas.

why is libby 90 points?

flakk misles on the tac really wont do much for you, 1st it will waste the rest of the squads fire power, and second they have little sucess vs fliers. s7 wont hurt hellturkeys, or stormravens.

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Made in us
Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot





Columbus, GA

Libby is 90 pts because Librarian is 65 and psyker is 25. I didn't give him any extra weapons because I figure he'll be using those psyker powers of force staff instead.

DaddyWarcrimes: "Playing IG means never having to use the end of a screwdriver to pound a nail because you always have the points to bring the hammer."
Valhalla130's Hobby Progress thread: Valhallans, 'Nids and Fists
 
   
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Regular Dakkanaut





Maybe cut the flakk missiles to throw in more troops? If i understand correctly your only troops are just 2 tac squads?

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Made in us
Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot





Columbus, GA

Yeah. I was thinking the flakk missiles might give me some anti-air. I wasn't sure if the two Stormtalons would be enough. But that's only going to free up 40 points.I had another suggestion on another forum to make the captain a biker and that way the bikes would also be troops.

DaddyWarcrimes: "Playing IG means never having to use the end of a screwdriver to pound a nail because you always have the points to bring the hammer."
Valhalla130's Hobby Progress thread: Valhallans, 'Nids and Fists
 
   
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Bounding Dark Angels Assault Marine



Memphis,TN

Lose the devs add centerions with las cannon and missle launcher set ups also lose the LC on the pred and keep the ac lose flak all around maybe add an aegis with a relay also i like grave guns on the bikes combi grav and heavy bolters
   
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot





Columbus, GA

Could I get some reasoning behind that so I can learn better how to build a decent list?

DaddyWarcrimes: "Playing IG means never having to use the end of a screwdriver to pound a nail because you always have the points to bring the hammer."
Valhalla130's Hobby Progress thread: Valhallans, 'Nids and Fists
 
   
Made in us
Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot





Columbus, GA

All right, how about this then:

Captain
Power Sword
Bike
grav pistol
140 pts (and I could drop the captain altogether. If I did, then my bike squad would become fast attack.)

Librarian
Psyker
Terminator Armor
115 pts

Tactical Squad w/ 10 marines
grav gun
ML
Vet sergeant with combi-grav (although if I'm reading the codex entry correctly, he could just be a regular sgt and save a few points.)
190 pts

Tactical Squad w/ 10 marines (x2)
plasma gun
missile launcher
vet sgt w. power fist (because I have the models and they look cool, but not necessary and I could drop them)
205 pts (x2)

Bike squad
w/ 2 flamers
73 pts

Terminator Assault Squad w/ 5 TH/SS
Land Raider Redeemer
465 pts

Stormtalon w/ Skyhammer ML (x2)
125 pts (x2)

Devastator Squad w/ 4 lascannons
150 pts

Devastator Squad w/ 4 Heavy Bolters
110 pts

Thunderfire cannon
100 pts

Predator w/ heavy bolter sponsons
95 pts

If I copied everything over correctly, that should total to 1958. Which would be enough to throw some wargear on, maybe some vehicle stuff to bring it to 2000 pts. If I want to go to 1850 or 1500 pts I'd need to drop a few things.

let me know if this is an improvement in any way.

DaddyWarcrimes: "Playing IG means never having to use the end of a screwdriver to pound a nail because you always have the points to bring the hammer."
Valhalla130's Hobby Progress thread: Valhallans, 'Nids and Fists
 
   
Made in us
Legendary Master of the Chapter






I dont know about your local meta but you have almost no anti air.

Tripdrakes will own this list as it rolls around back and torches your devs troops and bikes.

I personally liked your first list better.
I would move the heavy bolters from the devs to the tac marines, and have a 50 50 mix of flak/las devs for both of your dev squad. if possible get a ADL with quad gun for even more st 7 ap 4 tank hunting sky fire lulz.

you can probably shave off the power fist on the tacs and chuck in some melta bombs if you feel you will need it.

I don't know how to feel about your cap or lib.

Edit: storm talons with las cannons could be better for anti air but i dont recall what that thing can take.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/09/10 15:24:20


 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
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Ultramarine Scout with Sniper Rifle



Lafayette, LA

I think you'd be better off giving your captain the 2 bikes grav-guns since you have the open points and bikes are relentless.
You also can not have a Predator, Thunderfire, and 2 Dev squads since you do not have 2000 points neither do you have 4 troop choices.


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If you are also adamant on keeping the Stormtalons you chould probably would be better off using TW-las or typhoon for the better str.
Also could add a bike or 2 with an attack bike to make the squad with the captain a little more resilient.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/09/10 16:45:55


   
Made in us
Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot





Columbus, GA

D'oh! I took too many heavy support choices. Thank!

I'll post an updated list shortly.

To be honest, I'm not feeling the libby. I could leave it out and be fine. I want to take a chaplain, but that's only because I think they're cool. Not necessarily because its effective. And that's my problem. I throw stuff into lists because I like the background or the way they look, and don't really understand how it works on the field of battle.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
All right, I'm gonna try this again, watching my force org.

HQ

Captain/power sword/grav-pistol/bike - 140 pts

Troops
Bike Squad/2 grav guns - 93 pts

Tactical Squad/10 marines/plasma gun/Heavy bolter - 165 pts

Tactical Squad/10 marines/plasma gun/Heavy bolter - 165 pts

Tactical Squad/10 marines/plasma gun/Heavy bolter - 165 pts

Elite

Terminator Assault Squad/5 TH/SS/Land Raider - 475 pts

Fast Attack

Stormtalon/Twin-linked lascannons - 140 pts

Stormtalon/Twin-linked lascannons - 140 pts

Heavy Support

Thunderfire Cannon - 100 pts

Predator/heavy bolter sponsons - 95 pts

Devastator Squad/4 missile launchers/flakk - 170 pts

Total: 1848.

I don't know. It seems generic.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/09/10 19:38:59


DaddyWarcrimes: "Playing IG means never having to use the end of a screwdriver to pound a nail because you always have the points to bring the hammer."
Valhalla130's Hobby Progress thread: Valhallans, 'Nids and Fists
 
   
 
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