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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/12 07:46:22
Subject: Spacewolves 1500 tournament list
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Regular Dakkanaut
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1@@ Runepriest (LL,jaws)
Elites
244 8xWG (4xcombi-melta,1xcombi-plasma,2xcombi-plasma/combiflamer),1xTDA/HF/PA,Pod)
TROOPS
195 10 x GreyHunters (2 plasmagun,DropPod)
195 10 x GreyHunters (2 plasmagun,DropPod)
190 10 x GreyHunters (2 meltagun,DropPod)
Fast Attack
280 5 x Thunderwolves (1xss)
Heavy Support
175 6 x Longfangs (5 x missile launchers,Pod)
140 6 x Longfangs (5 x missile launchers)
Tacts
Runepriest goes with the WG drop Pod for alpha strike along with two of the GH pods.
Thunderwolves ride to support the alpha strike where needed and the longfangs shoot from distance.
PS: No hell turkeys in my local meta
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/12 18:55:43
Subject: Spacewolves 1500 tournament list
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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Looks good. Really good.
But it also looks like most of the other lists you've posted.
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2500 pts
Horst wrote:This is how trolling happens. A few cheeky posts are made. Then they get more insulting. Eventually, we revert to our primal animal state, hurling feces at each other while shreeking with glee.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/12 19:19:10
Subject: Spacewolves 1500 tournament list
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Lurking Gaunt
New York
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lonewolf81 wrote:HQ
1@@ Runepriest ( LL,jaws)
Elites
244 8xWG (4xcombi-melta,1xcombi-plasma,2xcombi-plasma/combiflamer),1xTDA/ HF/ PA,Pod)
TROOPS
195 10 x GreyHunters (2 plasmagun,DropPod)
195 10 x GreyHunters (2 plasmagun,DropPod)
190 10 x GreyHunters (2 meltagun,DropPod)
Fast Attack
280 5 x Thunderwolves (1xss)
Heavy Support
175 6 x Longfangs (5 x missile launchers,Pod)
140 6 x Longfangs (5 x missile launchers)
Tacts
Runepriest goes with the WG drop Pod for alpha strike along with two of the GH pods.
Thunderwolves ride to support the alpha strike where needed and the longfangs shoot from distance.
PS: No hell turkeys in my local meta
This is going to be your problem with getting honest feedback and discussion on Puppies lists. They are horribly vanilla. They're stale. Every Puppies list is going to include the following:
Wolf Priest, Wolf Guard Battle Leader + Scouts or Land Raider if they like to roll Death Stars onto the edge of tables, Rune Priests, Wolf Guard in or out of TDA, Grey Hunters, Thunderwolf Cavalry Long Fangs, everything kitted out with Meltas or Plasma or Missile Launchers, respectively.
Now and then someone will continue to try to figure out how to break Canis + Mass Puppies and they'll cry a lot because Overwatching Tau Gunlines slaughter assaults. Eldar gunlines slaughter assaults. Etc.
My point is this: Unless you've miraculously sorted out how to make Bloodclaws a good unit, or you're super confident that Skyclaws are the new bee's knees, there's just not a whole lot more to go on.
This list looks good. If you play it right in the right situation, you should do just fine, but don't expect to table up and steamroll someone, at least not until the Wolves get their 6th Ed treatment (maybe in May 14) and hopefully the army gets better, although having taken a hard look at Marine's, I don't forsee great things for Wolves, or any Astartes for that matter.
Good luck! No matter what, have fun!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/12 19:37:52
Subject: Spacewolves 1500 tournament list
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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notbriang wrote:
This is going to be your problem with getting honest feedback and discussion on Puppies lists. They are horribly vanilla. They're stale.
Well...
notbriang, is probably correct that Space Wolves lists are 'stale'. I guess.
But I guess he didn't know that lonewolf81 and Grugknuckle have posted many many lists to this forum and have been providing honest feedback and discussion about said lists right here in this forum. So while I won't dispute the accuracy of the above overly broad generalization of Space Wolves lists, I will say this; I'm pretty sure that lonewolf81 knows what's up with Space Wolves.
Every Puppies list is going to include the following:
Wolf Priest, Wolf Guard Battle Leader + Scouts or Land Raider if they like to roll Death Stars onto the edge of tables, Rune Priests, Wolf Guard in or out of TDA, Grey Hunters, Thunderwolf Cavalry Long Fangs, everything kitted out with Meltas or Plasma or Missile Launchers, respectively.
Yes indeed. Every list has to have an HQ character and you must choose between a wolf priest, a wolf lord a rune priest or a WGBL. So you are correct - every SW list will have an HQ.
I disagree that every SW list will have wolf guard. Most of my lists don't.
Yes. Every list will have Grey Hunters because you have to have troops and your only other choice for troops just sucks. (Yes, blood claws suck.) Having everything kitted out with melta, plasma and missiles is also standard. But isnt' that true for almost all marine armies?
Thunderwolf cavalry is not obligatory, but yes, common in SW armies.
Long Fangs are ubiquitous because they're the best devastator squad for the points of any Astartes codex. Naturally people take the good units from their codex.
My point is this: Unless you've miraculously sorted out how to make Bloodclaws a good unit, or you're super confident that Skyclaws are the new bee's knees, there's just not a whole lot more to go on.
I disagree a little bit. Space Wolves lists are very flexible. It's just that the codex is old and every one has seen all of the permutations of armies from this codex. The same is true for Orks and - up until last week - space marines.
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2500 pts
Horst wrote:This is how trolling happens. A few cheeky posts are made. Then they get more insulting. Eventually, we revert to our primal animal state, hurling feces at each other while shreeking with glee.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/13 01:31:31
Subject: Spacewolves 1500 tournament list
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Wraith
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TCav without an HQ are not good. Ld8 means you can have them break 50/50 out of the tests you make. With all the pinning weapons, Ld tests, and what not existing out there right now, you MUST run a lord with them. Go big or Go Home with TCav.
Your Grey Hunters need Wolf Standards. It's the best 10pt item in our book. Period. You will alpha strike and on the enemies turn, you have an item that lets you reroll ones for all your overwatch to hit, overwatch to wound, melee to hit, melee to wound, and armor saves? For 10 points? Must. Have.
I don't like the Combi-Weapons on your WG. It feels like you're paying full points to be half effective versus... something. That might be more a style choice, but you can cut some points if you try this:
Grey Hunters: Flamer (free), Plasma (free), Wolf Standard
Then have them be infantry hunter. Long Fangs can crack transports and if you see Av14, I recommend either getting a hunter TCav model (or two); simply SS+TH = Bumper chaser. Or try TDA/CF/SS Lone Wolves.
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Shine on, Kaldor Dayglow!
Not Ken Lobb
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/13 06:15:33
Subject: Re:Spacewolves 1500 tournament list
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Regular Dakkanaut
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First of all, thank you all for feedback and Grugknuckle thnx for kind words mate. Space wolves lists are a bit static and thats because you have limited choices as you said (named characters cost to much for theirs outdated stats and abilities, bloodclaws ,skyclaws and swiftclaws,dreadnoughts can not work in an aggressive environment ). All comes down to GH, LF, Rune, wolf priests and thunderwolves (which are expensive for what they do but they are fluffy , cool, and sometimes useful). So not much to say here, you play with what you get and with spacewolves you dont get variety. Despite that ill stick with the wolves cause from all the armies, i like them the most and hopefully we' ll get the variety we need with the new dex .
Cheers!!
PS: From all those similar lists i posted (1500 points wolves with aggresive flavor) i think ill stick with this one:
HQ
280 Wolflord (RA/TH/SS/SOB,TWM,2xfenrisianwolves)
TROOPS
195 10 x GreyHunters (2 plasmagun,DropPod)
195 10 x GreyHunters (2 plasmagun,DropPod)
190 10 x GreyHunters (2 meltagun,DropPod)
Fast Attack
180 3x thunderwolves (1SS)
180 3x thunderwolves (1SS)
Heavy Support
140 6 x Longfangs (5 x missile launchers)
140 6 x Longfangs (5 x missile launchers)
Tacts
Thunderlord joins a thunderwolf pack and supports the alpha strike GHs. The other thunderwolf pack runs for support too. Long fangs shoot from cover. Ill test it this weekend
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