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Ultramarine Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control




Southampton, New Jersey

As a warning, these local tournaments are extremely competitive (from what I hear). Typically you will see 3 Riptides, 3 Wraithknights, or 3 Heldrakes in a single 1350 list. This being said, as a Space Marine player, I tried building a list that will compete with each.

Iron Hand Master of the Forge - 90
Iron Hand Techmarine - 50
Dark Angels Librarian - 175
-Force Sword, Melta Bombs, Auspex, Bike
-Power Field Generator
-Shroud of Heroes
(T5, W2, 3+ Armor, 4++ Invulnerable and 5+ FNP; He needs to stay alive as long as possible)
Dark Angels Techmarine - 75
(BRB FAQ - Models can not repair Allied vehicles - pg.9)

Iron Hand (5) Scouts
-Shotguns
Iron Hand (5) Scouts
-Shotguns
Dark Angels (5) Scouts
-Shotguns

Iron Hand Land Raider Crusader - 260
-Multi-Melta
Iron Hand Land Raider Crusader - 260
-Multi-Melta
Dark Angels Land Raider Crusader - 260
-Multi-Melta

1350/1350

Idea: I wanted 3 LRCs. I wanted 4++ on each. I wanted the bike to keep up to the Land Raiders (12" movement). I don't plan on disembarking until end game so I'll be kiting/snapfiring all game until then. Libby will most likely take Prescience for Twin-Link MM. I wanted repairs on the inside of my LRCs so I included a MotF and 2 Tech. I could only fit a Techmarine in each army, 1 for IH and 1 for DA. Due to the FAQ, I had to make one of the LRC Dark Angels. I lose IWND, but I get a 4+ repair from the Tech.

1 LRC will have IWND and a 3+ repair with IH MotF.
1 LRC will have IWND and a 4+ repair with IH Techmarine.
1 LRC will have a 4+ repair with DA Techmarine.
All 3 LRCs will have 4++ for as long as the Libby survives.
Libby has 3+/4++ and 5+ FNP. (50 points for FNP may seem steep but my entire list revolves around keeping him alive. I need the 4++/5+ imo. The Cover Save from Shroud of Heroes doesn't come into play unless a GK with a vindicare shoots at him.

What do you guys think?

Edit: All games are played on a 4x4 table.

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Bounding Dark Angels Assault Marine



Memphis,TN

I like it, I was thinking something similar so many new book ideas.
One I was thinking of was iron hands/raven guard give tacticals scout in rhinos so they can get there fast to cover some dreadnoughts and a supped up bike unit.
   
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Fully-charged Electropriest






Varying cities in the North

That's a nice list, but I can't help but think you will struggle with these triple Riptide and Wraithknight threats with only a few melta weapons... I'd think about taking the Forgeworld Spartan Assault Tank, four twin-linked lascannons, transports 25 models if necessary, immune to melta, 295 points etc etc (and fairly easy to convert your own).

And Jpat1213, Iron Hands/Raven Guard is good tactically, but if you're aiming to please the background stories etc, the two hate each other and refuse to eat at the same feast table etc.
   
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Ultramarine Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control




Southampton, New Jersey

I don't think there is forge world allowed at this particular one. But my friend has told me that Triple riptide is the list to beat. That being said it's 3 MM, one TLd because of prescience and 3 TL asscan with rending. Most tau weapons can't reliably kill a LR unlessI get in melta range. But even in that case I have 4++ most of the game.

Practice games tonight. Tournament tomorrow. Just wanted dakkas thoughts to see what I should be careful of.

Thanks!
   
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Flashy Flashgitz




The Wall of Iron!

You have indeed made an immovable object for on a low budget.

I have one critical question tho, how are you gonna hurt all the hellish monsters in the other lists? To me it looks like if you will survive their pounding for as many turns as possible and grab objectives late game. Your defense is very solid, but you can't scratch much the way I see it. It's not a list that seems very threatening rather it looks annoying to take down.

My solution would be grav and melta to face. And take a lot of shots at the DA librarian.

With love from Denmark

 
   
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Ultramarine Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control




Southampton, New Jersey

Yeah, it's offensive capabilities come from the LRC's weapons. It's 3 S8 AP1, 12 S6 with Rending, and 18/36 S4 AP5 shots. The Libby casts spells that help depending on the enemy army.

It's not a lot of shots, but it's enough to weaken the enemy while I stay at a safe distance. I simply need to survive objective games and focus fire the crap out of things in Kill Points. First Blood is going to be key in every match.
   
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Angered Reaver Arena Champion




Connah's Quay, North Wales

I think your in real danger of being mobbed by Monstrous creatures. Say what would you do against duel Flyrant (Lots of competitive tyranid lists have them) before they smash 2 land raiders to slag in a single assault? Or a deepstriking Trygon? Or warp lances dropping down (4++ only goes so far)?

Biker nobz strength 10 spam? Seer council strength 9 spam or multi empowered blades? Screamer Council with lamprey bites? Flying Circus smashing daemon princes? Wraithknights who will NEVER be in range OR can smash you into oblivion?

None of these competitive lists you would stand a chance against because as said before, your entire offensive capabilities are 3 multi melta's, 3 assault cannons and 18 sets of bolters. How do you expect to whittle down a biker nob star? Or reliably take down an iron armed tyrant/tervigons? I just don't think AV 14 spam is a good idea, as they counter 1 or 2 things, then get countered themselves by like 8. Unless you KNOW exactly that you wont face any of these lists, then its not safe. That's the problem with Anti meta lists, if someone changes the meta (Say spams oblits instead of heldrakes) your screwed.

Running numbers of your ENTIRE army vs T6 3+ save being 2/3 multi melta wounds then about 1 assault cannon wound and a rending. Bolters do about 1 wound as well. that's 6 wounds of your entire army in close range. That changes to 2/3 wounds against wraithknights or T8 iron arm and is really quite effective against FMC IF you can ground them with the first LRC, if not then they will smash a LRC into the ground.

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Prophetic Blood Angel Librarian




Necrons witu gauss and haywire or BA with plenty of powerfists (how I run them) would love this!
   
 
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