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2013/09/14 02:40:04
Subject: ICs and MCs
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Can independent characters join Monstrous Creatures?
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2013/09/14 02:44:03
Subject: Re:ICs and MCs
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Sister Vastly Superior
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If the monstrous creature is capable of having more than one model in the unit, yes. If the unit can only ever consist of one model, no.
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I play Space Marines, Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Astra Militarum, Militarum Tempestus, Chaos Space Marines, Dark Eldar, Eldar, Orks, Adepta Sororitas, 'Nids, Necrons, Tau and Grey Knights. |
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2013/09/14 02:49:09
Subject: ICs and MCs
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
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examples of what can have an IC joined is Carnifexs, Riptide.......can't think of any others.
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2013/09/14 03:34:29
Subject: Re:ICs and MCs
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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 erick99 wrote:If the monstrous creature is capable of having more than one model in the unit, yes. If the unit can only ever consist of one model, no.
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Do I have to pay for the drone or can the IC just join the unit without the upgrade?
Thanks in advance!
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2013/09/14 04:25:01
Subject: Re:ICs and MCs
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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 CKO wrote: erick99 wrote:If the monstrous creature is capable of having more than one model in the unit, yes. If the unit can only ever consist of one model, no.
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Do I have to pay for the drone or can the IC just join the unit without the upgrade?
Thanks in advance!
It does not need to buy the drone, it just simple needs the ability to not only ever be a single model unit
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2013/09/14 05:45:19
Subject: ICs and MCs
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The Hive Mind
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 CrashCanuck wrote:examples of what can have an IC joined is Carnifexs, Riptide.......can't think of any others.
Necron Canoptek Spiders
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My beautiful wife wrote:Trucks = Carnifex snack, Tanks = meals.
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2013/09/14 05:58:32
Subject: Re:ICs and MCs
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Tea-Kettle of Blood
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Where does this "ICs can't join MCs" thing come from? I keep seeing this topic come up. Is it because most MCs are single model units?
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 Ailaros wrote:You know what really bugs me? When my opponent, before they show up at the FLGS smears themselves in peanut butter and then makes blood sacrifices to Ashterai by slitting the throat of three male chickens and then smears the spatter pattern into the peanut butter to engrave sacred symbols into their chest and upper arms.
I have a peanut allergy. It's really inconsiderate.
"Long ago in a distant land, I, M'kar, the shape-shifting Master of Chaos, unleashed an unspeakable evil! But a foolish Grey Knight warrior wielding a magic sword stepped forth to oppose me. Before the final blow was struck, I tore open a portal in space and flung him into the Warp, where my evil is law! Now the fool seeks to return to real-space, and undo the evil that is Chaos!" |
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2013/09/14 06:03:31
Subject: Re:ICs and MCs
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Sister Vastly Superior
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Yes, and a single model unit can't be joined by ICs, unless it has the option for more models. So you can add a IC to that Carnifex, but your Tyranofex is forever alone.
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I play Space Marines, Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Astra Militarum, Militarum Tempestus, Chaos Space Marines, Dark Eldar, Eldar, Orks, Adepta Sororitas, 'Nids, Necrons, Tau and Grey Knights. |
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2013/09/14 07:59:25
Subject: ICs and MCs
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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I can't recall exactly but I think in 5th edition MCs were outright banned from being joined by ICs (may be wrong on this).
In 6th the wording is something along the lines of 'no single model units, like most MCs'. That's why many people think of MCs.
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2013/09/14 08:05:11
Subject: ICs and MCs
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Tea-Kettle of Blood
Adelaide, South Australia
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rossatdi wrote:I can't recall exactly but I think in 5th edition MCs were outright banned from being joined by ICs (may be wrong on this).
I remember Tyranid Primes joining Carnifex broods, so I don't think so.
In 6th the wording is something along the lines of 'no single model units, like most MCs'. That's why many people think of MCs.
That could be it.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/09/14 09:10:38
Ailaros wrote:You know what really bugs me? When my opponent, before they show up at the FLGS smears themselves in peanut butter and then makes blood sacrifices to Ashterai by slitting the throat of three male chickens and then smears the spatter pattern into the peanut butter to engrave sacred symbols into their chest and upper arms.
I have a peanut allergy. It's really inconsiderate.
"Long ago in a distant land, I, M'kar, the shape-shifting Master of Chaos, unleashed an unspeakable evil! But a foolish Grey Knight warrior wielding a magic sword stepped forth to oppose me. Before the final blow was struck, I tore open a portal in space and flung him into the Warp, where my evil is law! Now the fool seeks to return to real-space, and undo the evil that is Chaos!" |
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2013/09/14 09:06:30
Subject: Re:ICs and MCs
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Regular Dakkanaut
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If what I hear is correct Malanthropes are MCs and are purchasable in broods of 3 now.
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2013/09/14 09:11:23
Subject: Re:ICs and MCs
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Tea-Kettle of Blood
Adelaide, South Australia
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Rumbleguts wrote:If what I hear is correct Malanthropes are MCs and are purchasable in broods of 3 now.
They were MCs, they aren't any more. and they've been in broods of 1-3 for a while now.
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Ailaros wrote:You know what really bugs me? When my opponent, before they show up at the FLGS smears themselves in peanut butter and then makes blood sacrifices to Ashterai by slitting the throat of three male chickens and then smears the spatter pattern into the peanut butter to engrave sacred symbols into their chest and upper arms.
I have a peanut allergy. It's really inconsiderate.
"Long ago in a distant land, I, M'kar, the shape-shifting Master of Chaos, unleashed an unspeakable evil! But a foolish Grey Knight warrior wielding a magic sword stepped forth to oppose me. Before the final blow was struck, I tore open a portal in space and flung him into the Warp, where my evil is law! Now the fool seeks to return to real-space, and undo the evil that is Chaos!" |
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2013/09/14 09:56:11
Subject: Re:ICs and MCs
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Tunneling Trygon
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 PrinceRaven wrote:Rumbleguts wrote:If what I hear is correct Malanthropes are MCs and are purchasable in broods of 3 now.
They were MCs, they aren't any more. and they've been in broods of 1-3 for a while now.
They aren't anymore?
Where does it say this o.O?
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A Town Called Malus wrote: Draigo is a Mat Ward creation. They don't follow the same rules as everyone else.
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2013/09/14 09:56:54
Subject: ICs and MCs
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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PrinceRaven wrote:
I remember Tyranid Primes joining Carnifex broods, so I don't think so.
That's because they have a special rule in their codex to do so.
In 5ed, IC's could not join MCs at all because the BRB said so.
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2013/09/14 09:58:04
Subject: ICs and MCs
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Tunneling Trygon
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 CrownAxe wrote: PrinceRaven wrote:
I remember Tyranid Primes joining Carnifex broods, so I don't think so.
That's because they have a special rule in their codex to do so.
In 5ed, IC's could not join MCs at all because the BRB said so.
No they don't... There is no such rule in the codex.
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Grimtuff wrote: GW want the full wrath of their Gestapo to come down on this new fangled Internet and it's free speech.
A Town Called Malus wrote: Draigo is a Mat Ward creation. They don't follow the same rules as everyone else.
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2013/09/14 10:16:00
Subject: ICs and MCs
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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CrownAxe wrote: PrinceRaven wrote:
I remember Tyranid Primes joining Carnifex broods, so I don't think so.
That's because they have a special rule in their codex to do so.
In 5ed, IC's could not join MCs at all because the BRB said so.
From the 5th edition rulebook:
"They cannot, however, join vehicle squadrons and units that always consist of a single model (like most vehicles and monstrous creatures)."
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
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2013/09/14 10:35:37
Subject: Re:ICs and MCs
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Tea-Kettle of Blood
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Bloodhorror wrote: PrinceRaven wrote:Rumbleguts wrote:If what I hear is correct Malanthropes are MCs and are purchasable in broods of 3 now.
They were MCs, they aren't any more. and they've been in broods of 1-3 for a while now.
They aren't anymore?
Where does it say this o.O?
The new Imperial Armour Apocalypse book.
CrownAxe wrote: PrinceRaven wrote:
I remember Tyranid Primes joining Carnifex broods, so I don't think so.
That's because they have a special rule in their codex to do so.
Yes, the Independent Character special rule.
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Ailaros wrote:You know what really bugs me? When my opponent, before they show up at the FLGS smears themselves in peanut butter and then makes blood sacrifices to Ashterai by slitting the throat of three male chickens and then smears the spatter pattern into the peanut butter to engrave sacred symbols into their chest and upper arms.
I have a peanut allergy. It's really inconsiderate.
"Long ago in a distant land, I, M'kar, the shape-shifting Master of Chaos, unleashed an unspeakable evil! But a foolish Grey Knight warrior wielding a magic sword stepped forth to oppose me. Before the final blow was struck, I tore open a portal in space and flung him into the Warp, where my evil is law! Now the fool seeks to return to real-space, and undo the evil that is Chaos!" |
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2013/09/14 12:23:07
Subject: ICs and MCs
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The Hive Mind
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CrownAxe wrote: PrinceRaven wrote:
I remember Tyranid Primes joining Carnifex broods, so I don't think so.
That's because they have a special rule in their codex to do so.
In 5ed, IC's could not join MCs at all because the BRB said so.
Incorrect on both points.
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My beautiful wife wrote:Trucks = Carnifex snack, Tanks = meals.
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