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Please help my son build a fun Space Marine army. There are no fliers in our meta. We do not wish to spam units. We wish to be very competitive and have fun learning about tactics.

This need not be an Ultramarines army, it's just that I thought Tiggy would work well with the units we liked. We came up with the following list in an attempt to be able to counter all the threats we might come across (again, no fliers to worry about).

Tiggy 165 (with Sternguard)

10-man tactical squad, plasma cannon, plasma gun, rhino + storm bolter 140. obligatory - models purchased (but special & hvy weapons up for change).
10-man tactical squad, plasma cannon, plasma gun, rhino + storm bolter 140. obligatory - models purchased (but special & hvy weapons up for change).
5-man scout squad, 4 sniper rifles, missile launcher, camo cloaks 84. obligatory - models purchased.

Bike Squad, 2 grav guns 93. obligatory - models purchased.
Landspeeder, multimelta, hvy flamer 70
Attack bike, multimelta 55

Predator, lascannon sponsons 115
Whirlwind 65
TFC 100

Legion of the Damned, meltagun, multimelta 145
9-man Sternguard Veterans, drop pod, 2 grav guns 273

Total 1492.

Synergies: LotD and SV (with Tiggy) drop 1st turn, landspeeder in from reserves with Tiggy reserve reroll. Tiggy gives Storm of Fire to LotD, who reroll scatter to get close to enemy vehicle. LotD ignore cover with melta weapons to open up a transport, which the SVs then hammer (no combis on these chaps as they become too expensive imho). Both LotD (with Storm of Fire) and the SV (from Tiggy's Prescience) get rerolls to hit. Techmarine Gunner of TFC gives Scouts bolstered cover. Not sure what impact the UM Chapter Tactics could have.

Is this ok? Can you think of anyway of making it better given the considerations in the introduction? Thank you.

I find that Drop Pods are best used to either go all out with everything dropping, or having one tarpit Ironclad Dreadnought. Bikes cannot effectively be taken in numbers like that.

Hi there,

I like the concept here but there might be a couple of annoying rules issues with it. the storm of fire rule happens at the start of the turn along with tigarus' other blessings when the units will be in reserve so can't benefit from them.

Then with reserves the drop pod must come in turn 1 and other reserves must come in at turn two at the earliest, which is the wrong way around that you want.

Hmm, but if we reserve Tiggy and the SV, the LotD and the landspeeder, can't we bring Tiggy/SV and LotD on first turn?

reserves can only come in starting on turn 2. the exception being drop pods where half of them must come in turn one.

Also you'd have to check if tigarus's ability to re roll reserves works if he's off the board.

Andram wrote:
reserves can only come in starting on turn 2. the exception being drop pods where half of them must come in turn one.

Also you'd have to check if tigarus's ability to re roll reserves works if he's off the board.

It does. I'm running drop pod Tiggy as well in my army. States if he's in the army, you can re-roll.