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I know some people will call me crazy but I've been thinking about taking the punisher pask dakka combo. Scoring on average 20 str5 shots per turn is nasty. And with the majority of people going towards str6 or 7 weapons (in my meta at least) it looks rather durable. Apart from heavy armour I think it will do well against most enemy units. 20 str5 re rolling to wounds that accounts to 6 wounds against a wraithknight which will take 2 wounds off it after saves. And it can still cause serious damage to light armour with 29 str6 shots there's not much that can take that many shots. And against hordes it's fairly golden. Although the facts aside I just like the fact that I'm forcing my opponent to roll lots of saves. The obvious problem with this is the 24" range butthiscpuld be solved by clever deployment. What do you guys think I'm currently running tau with imperial guard allies do you think he cuts the mustard?
   
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?





UK

It's certainly a useful choice against any army that is bringing a lot of infantry. The range means it either has to spearhead an advance or remain as a purely counter-attacking unit, depending on the opponent. Either way, it is a nice tank, especially if you can rely on your tau to tankbust with Railheads.

 
   
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England

I'd take it, your opposition will determine your style. Against nids/orks/cc armies hide it and wait for them to come to you. Against shooty ones, spearhead unless facing melta spam.

I'd have an AT or anti MEQ russ as well to deal with things the punisher can't, a vanquisher and a regular perhaps?

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Regular Dakkanaut




Well I'm using my tau as primary so the 2 riptides should be calving open light tanks and my 2 vendettas and melta vets on anything more substantial.
   
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I really like the Pask/Punisher combo, and have used it on and off since the IG codex came out. It is expensive but it can really carve a hole in horde armies. Plus, the punisher cannon just looks really cool on the table.

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Decrepit Dakkanaut





Vallejo, CA

Kitted properly (so, with a lascannon and multimeltas, rather than unecessary extra heavy bolters), a pask punisher is one of the most effective defensive units in the entire army.

The only problem with it is that you're not likely going to be in need of defensive units. Once your army already has mechvets or a melta hedge from platoons in front of it, spending 250 points to be good at what you've already got down doesn't work very well. After a few games of it getting shot apart before doing anything appreciable, you're invariably going to want to swap the pask punisher for a pask vanquisher or executioner that will have a chance of actually doing damage, thanks to better range.





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against infantry (IG infantry, orks, bugs, etc) its good.
its can glance to death armor 12 (chimeras or other things) but that's about it.

I recently faced someone who brought a Pask-Punisher and my heavy weight tank squadron (2 battle tanks and a Vanquisher) went up against the poor guy. he couldn't do a thing to them and my Vanquisher The "Hammer" tore him in half with a single shot. plus for the entire game he was out of range of the only units he could hurt (my chimeras and infantry). SO Pask-Punisher is kinda an all or nothing thing. It can hurt infantry and armor 12 but anything else and its doomed (unless it has a lascannon, but im focusing on the main gun)

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Engine of war to reply to your point I don't really myself in that situation In my local meta. I see lots of daemons lots of other tau and lots of eldar. I believe the pask punisher has the number on daemons, tau and eldar. Going up against those pesky war walkers for example I'm going to smash them with str 6 shooting when I get in range. And the way I see it is if there shooting at the punisher there not shooting 2 vendettas 2 riptides and a skyray. All require high str low ap weapons to take out.
   
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Am I missing something? I thought the punisher was S5, how can it glance AV12?
   
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Vallejo, CA

When pask doesn't move, his weapons count as +1S against vehicles.

But then he's REALLY a defensive weapon in a punisher.


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Although I don't think that the +1 str is that amazing but having bs4 on a tank that fires 29 str5 shots is a really nice tool to have. I don't really see any mech lists apart from serpent spam in my local gaming group and with everything getting cheaper I think volume of dice is what is needed at the moment. And nothing does it better than a pask punisher
   
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I 100% would run Pask in a punisher, especially in the meta that you describe. Pask is mega win vs any infantry unit, even those with a 2+ armour save. The amount of saves he can force a unit to take is high, and even 2+ saves will go down under weight of fire.

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Unfortunatelly Vulture with twin Punichers is cheaper, more accurate (twinlink), durable (flyer!) and can even deal with AV 10-11 flyers. Not to mention vector dancer almost completely negate standard flyer maneuverability problem.

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Isn;t the vulture FW only though?

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Vallejo, CA

Yes. You're also reaching out of your codex just so that you can perpetrate some of the worst rules in 40k at the moment.

I would note, though, that vultures don't get access to multimelta or plasma sponsons which, depending on who you're up against.



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