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Hi fellow Dakkians,

I just got home not so long ago to a delivery of the new Space marines. All in all, I got 2 box of Tactical squads, a box of Sternguard and Vanguard vets. Firstly, and I might be saying something controversial, but I think GW has finally delivered a quality product with these kits! I'm not saying they haven't been quality before however I've always begrudged paying the kind of prices GW want for their models.

Ahem, anyway, moving onwards.............

So I've spent ages trying to figure out in which direction I wanted to take my new army and I didn't want to do BA's again. I decided on Black Consuls because I wanted to paint a black army. For some reason, it just feels right. But for all the other colours (helmets, shoulderpads, any additional details) I felt a black undercoat was going to be a pain in the backside to paint over, mainly because I can't pick out any of the detail until I've covered the whole thing in the wrong colours and have to touch up all my mistakes. More to the point, I have always painted over an Army Painter Grey spraint because it's easier and quicker. I know it sounds weird that I'm doing a black army and don't want to base black but...
However, my local guy who I normally buy AP spraint off hasn't got any more in stock and feels it doesn't sell well enough to buy any more in and I can't be bothered to order a tin off the internet and wait days for it to come through the post. Now I've seen GW's new release of "The Fang" spraint and reading into another thread on Dakka, "New GW coloured spray paint", Yonan said:

Girlpainting did a video review, the colour match for the one she tried (khorne red?) was close but not exact. I wouldn't bother, since you still need to prime the model beforehand, whereas you don't need to with armypainter.

I'll be honest, I couldn't find the video and I'm a little concerned. As previously mentioned, I don't particularly want to spray in black, then grey and then paint on top and risk putting too many layers on my minis. Even though I do thin down my paints, I tend to get a bit overzealous with spray...

Secondly, I have never painted a majority base in black and have trawled forums for idea's. I want a particularly dark looking set of models so was thinking spraint white, paint details, basecoat armour in abaddon black, a highlight layer in 50:50 abaddon black and warpfiend grey, a coat of very thin black wash and then just highlighting with warpfiend grey and any extreme highlighting can be done with a lighter shade of grey?

I know the best way is trial and error but I appreciate feedback and comments from those with experience plus I don't really want to invest a whole lot of money and time in miniatures and have to start again from scratch...

Many thanks in advance,
Guylian