Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Hey fellas, I play my friends in 40k quite often and their armies are Tau, Necron, Eldar, and Vanilla SM. No real theme to their armies, but the eldar player has literally every model at his disposal and usually takes fire prisms and the Avatar. Anyways, I try to make an all comer list, which is mostly Nurgle-themed. Any comments are much appreciated.

HQ:
Chaos Lord w/ terminator armor
-bike
-MoN
-SoC
-PF and LC
-gift of mutation

Troop:
Marines x10
-2 plasma guns

Plague Marines x7
-2 plasma guns
-champ has LC

Plague Marines x 7
-plasma guns
-champ has LC

Fast Attack:
Bikers x 7
-2 meltaguns
-MoN
-champ has PF

Heldrake
-baleflamer

Heavy Support:
Obliterators x2
-MoN
-VotLW

Predator
-twin-linked lascannon
-las cannon sponsons


I am trying to get more obliterators so I can have another 2 man squad of them to replace the predator. I also want to see if I can incorporate a Nurgle Sorc in there but I don't really know what to shave off other than some bikes.

Haha wow, I just built a list that was almost exactly this. Let me know how it plays. I didn't have the squad of CSM, and both Plague Marine units were in rhinos. A sorcerer probably wouldn't be a bad addition if you could find the points. The thing that strikes me though is that, without the rhinos, your force is somewhat slow, bikers aside. Assuming you're going to be trying to get them into combat, they're going to be advancing pretty unsupported. Especially if the obliterators don't drop in until turn 3 or 4, your bikers are going to be taking most of your opponents' shooting. That's my own worry with thinking of a very similar list, at least. I think having the utility of the rhinos to bring up the plague marines to plasmagun territory fast will help. Good luck!

Hmmm Firstly, Can Chaos Lord take a bike with Terminator armour? (dont have the dex on me atm). Secondly i would spilt the bikes into 2 sqauds of 3, Giving you more Special Weapons for shooting things, If your planning on using them for assaults than the 7 works. Id also just drop the 10 man marine sqaud and make them plagues as well.
I try and make my troop choices as cheap as possible and avoid combat with them so i rarely will ever take special weapons on my asp champs.
I usually run 2 preds with lascannons in most of my lists but lately ive been running havocs with lascannons. you get 4 for 5 points cheaper than the pred. But its all Personal Preference. looks like a decent list.
Good Luck ! = D

Indeed, the Chaos Lord cannot take Terminator Armour and still ride a bike. Other than that he is pretty much perfect.

I would maybe switch out the SM squad for cultists just for mass bodies. One thing with the Plague Marines, i generally prefer to take a Power Fist over anything else on my Champs since they strike last with their low initiative(?)

Can't take the sigil of corruption with a bike either I believe

the GOAT 765 wrote:
Can't take the sigil of corruption with a bike either I believe

You can combine a bike and the Sigil. That's actually what I'd recommend, considering you do not get an invulnerable save since you cannot choose Terminatorarmor.

First off, thanks for the comments!

Oh wow I didn't realize that you can't have both terminator and bike. Makes sense I suppose.
I have been considering the cultists as back field objective campers but my friends tend to have deepstriking models that I can imagine them using to clear out the cultists no problem.

Wow, didn't even see that you had both terminator armour and the bike. But yeah you can take the Sigil. I don't usually don't splurge on assault weapons for my Plague Marine champions since I'm generally using them more as mid-field objective holders and don't plan on rushing them into the enemy. I find that poisoned attacks alone are pretty deadly in the case that something charges into them, and they often dissuade things from doing so.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
If you are going to take a cc weapon though I would agree with elaps, PM are pretty slow to begin with and so a LC isn't really doing that much for them, especially since a number of enemies will go before them regardless of whether they have the fist or claw.

TemNoc wrote:

the GOAT 765 wrote:
Can't take the sigil of corruption with a bike either I believe

You can combine a bike and the Sigil. That's actually what I'd recommend, considering you do not get an invulnerable save since you cannot choose Terminatorarmor.

special issue war gear
"a model may take up to ONE of the following"
blight grenade, melta bomb, jump pack, chaos bike, sigil of coruption.

you cannot take a bike with the sigil.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
oh wait thats my bad.

it sasys up to one of EACH of the following.

sorry

Hmmm,

No terminator armor on bikes, with the saved points you can split the squad to have two bike squads running down the field while the others stay behind. I would say loose the Chaos troops for cultists since everything is slow but the bikes. Maybe add some spawns with MoN to support the bikes, at least to take damage while you move, and maybe tie up some units in Cc.