How much do you enjoy the 40k ruleset?

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**Grimtuff**

Deadnight wrote:
jamin484 wrote:
I don't understand what game you guys are playing that has this wonderful ruleset? Could you tell me which one it is please?

ones. plural. Warmachine/Hordes (Khador and Circle), Infinity (Ariadna, and Yu-Jing), Flames of War (a friend's germans/brits, but i'll be buying into the japs when they're released), Dystopian Wars (prussians), and interested in Firestorm Armada (Dindrenzi, and allied fleets, especially the RSN and Hawker) and Dropzone Commander (shasvatii).

personal favourites are warmachine/hordes, infinity and flames of war.

jamin484 wrote:
I've been trying to play the other table top wargames and I still have not found one that isn't rubbish compared to 40k.

may i ask why you feel this way? What is it that 40k offers that the others fail at? I'm asking out of genuine curiosity.

Alfndrate wrote:
jamin484 wrote:
I don't understand what game you guys are playing that has this wonderful ruleset?

Warmachine/Hordes, Malifaux, Infinity, Bolt Action, Brushfire, Flames of War, Endless Fantasy: Tactics, and X-Wing. And those are just the games that I personally play.

Could you tell me which one it is please? I've been trying to play the other table top wargames and I still have not found one that isn't rubbish compared to 40k.

I'll show you mine if you show me yours, what do you believe is so fantastic about the 40k rules that makes it a better game than all of its competitors?

Guys, you're wasting your time again.

From earlier in the thread:

jamin484 wrote:
I like it becasue it is better than all of the other table top games I play. kings of war, infinity warmachine/hoardes all rubbish. Nothing quite provides the variety, fluff, competitive games, tactics and lovely models that 40k does for me. Especially FW 40k.

Guy's made up his mind. No matter how wrong he actually is...

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Peregrine wrote:
jamin484 wrote:
insaniak wrote:

jamin484 wrote:
X wing is pretty good, but I'd not class it as a wargame as such.

What would you call it, then?

A board game with models. Kind of like Horus Heresy, Space hulk or dreadfleet.

Err, lol? How is X-wing not a wargame? It plays exactly like a game of 40k/Warmachine/etc, except with fewer models.

Gotta move the goalposts somehow, otherwise he might have to admit to liking a wargame other than 40k...

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jamin484 wrote:
Grimtuff wrote:
Peregrine wrote:
jamin484 wrote:
insaniak wrote:

jamin484 wrote:
X wing is pretty good, but I'd not class it as a wargame as such.

What would you call it, then?

A board game with models. Kind of like Horus Heresy, Space hulk or dreadfleet.

Err, lol? How is X-wing not a wargame? It plays exactly like a game of 40k/Warmachine/etc, except with fewer models.

Gotta move the goalposts somehow, otherwise he might have to admit to liking a wargame other than 40k...

Is Horus Heresy a wargame? or dreadfleet? Perhaps it is a wargame, I've never considered it as such and haven't given it much thought until now. What about space hulk? Is that a wargame? Risk?

Yes. They are all wargames that just happen to be played on a board. A sub-category called "Board Wargames"

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jamin484 wrote:
I play a lot of different games and rule sets and some of those mentioned here I have not even heard of. The difficulty is finding other people to play the more obscure tabletop wargames with. I'm not convinced on the argument that their rules are better than 40k anyway. 40K has issues sure but then, so do all of the other table top wargames I've played and I've tried quite a few. I think people are understandably angry at GW and have become a wee bit 'burnt out' playing 40k. Naturally they have migrated to other game systems which is great, and good for the hobby in general. It does lead them to look at different games with rose tinted glasses on however and ignore some of their more obvious flaws.

It's been objectively proven that these other rulesets do not suffer from all of the rules issues that 40k suffers from. Just take 2 seconds to look at the relevant YMDC forums. It's already been gone over in this thread as to how such a statement is factually incorrect.

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xruslanx wrote:
...I think I'm just going to let this thread die.

You won't though. You'll be back. Your tenacity, whilst admirable is only matched by your ignorance and you're far too entertaining to walk away now. It's just getting fun.

We know you're never going to be convinced in any way, in spite of the mountains of evidence given to you. So here's another random picture to maybe convince you.