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HQ
Kor'Sarro Khan (150pts)
Moondrakkan

Command Squad (230pts)
Bikes, Company Champion, 3x Melta-gun, 2x Power Fist

Troops
Bike Squad (135pts)
Biker Sergeant + 4x Space Marine Biker, 2x Grav-gun

Bike Squad (Troops) (135pts)
Biker Sergeant + 4x Space Marine Biker, 2x Grav-gun

Bike Squad (180pts)
Biker Sergeant + 4x Space Marine Biker, 2x Meltagun
Attack Bike - Multi-Melta

Bike Squad (180pts)
Biker Sergeant + 4x Space Marine Biker, 2x Meltagun
Attack Bike - Multi-Melta

Tactical Squad (85pts)
Sergeant w/ combi-Flamer + 4x Space Marines, Flamer

Heavy Support
Stormraven Gunship (200pts) - Twin-Linked Assault Cannon, Twin-Linked Multi-Melta
Stormraven Gunship (200pts) - Twin-Linked Assault Cannon, Twin-Linked Multi-Melta

Total: 1495pts

The idea behind the lone tactical squad is it will be dropped by one of the Stormravens as a late-game objective grabber (hence the flamers). My only concern is that it might be a bit melta-heavy if my opponent doesn't have too much armour - I could swap the three melta guns in the command squad with 2 grav-guns and melta bombs and that would come in at exactly 1500pts - would that be more balanced?

I would definitely add an apothecary to the command squad. feel no pain is too good to pass up

Good idea, I could fit him in to my second command squad loadout by replacing a power-fist with a power weapon and dropping the melta bombs - something like:

2 x grav-gun
1 x company champion
1 x apothecary
1 x power fist
1 x power weapon
total: 235 pts

An apothecary would be a good idea. I've faced a similar list and he absolutely stomped me. As far as melta goes I would swap it out for grabs wherever I could. The gun is simply amazing on a fast and relentless platform. Even against units with a low save you can use the bikes bolters. If the current ruling on grav guns vs. vehicles stands than they are arguably one of the best weapons in the game provided they can be fired to full effect (relentless, SnP, not moving)

That's what I'm leaning towards - I think I'll go with grav-guns in most of the squads, but leave melta-guns in the two squads with attack bikes and have them as my dedicated anti AV14.

ChillyMcFreeze wrote:
That's what I'm leaning towards - I think I'll go with grav-guns in most of the squads, but leave melta-guns in the two squads with attack bikes and have them as my dedicated anti AV14.

Thats what I was planning as well mate. Although the Grav-Gun is amazing, its always smart to have at least 2x squads with melta just in case if you run into any Imperial Guard Leman Russ Battle Tanks and other heavy armored vehicles. Although the Grav-Gun can damage vehicles, you need a 6 to wound it to do anything so thats why I expect the common meta to be a mix of Grav an Melta for bike squads. Or another option I have considered has been running my bikes w/Pure Grav-Guns and each Sgt. having a combi-gravgun and a PF ( though its arguable, there usually is a need to use a PF now and again in my opinion ), but gather other units to support my bikes, such as I have done with running 2x Stormtalons w/Twin-Linked Lascannons and a squadron of 3x Landspeeder Typhoons. So far these guys have proven more then enough antti-tank for me, while my bikes focus on his troops. Just a thought there mate.

eh I would split the two MM attack bikes off from the troop choices and run them as Attack bike squads. 2nd I would change your command squad to 4x grav guns and the apoth. I would change one of the Melta gun squads to grav guns. But in the end it depends on what your meta is, if your faving a lot of AV 14 keep it the way it is. if you don't see that mean vehicles then you may want to switch over to Grav spam.

I would ditch the power fists in the Command Squad and take melta bombs. Not sure on feel no pain as the Command Squad is just another unit if you get what I mean, it doesn't have anything special about it besides mass special weapons.

Rest is ok

Considering you're not using the Stormravens for transports, maybe consider having 3 Talons w/Typhoon Launcher instead + change. Strafing run (+1 BS), more units and fire power could be worth a shout. Ok, the armour's a bit less but it's a flier and 4 T/L assault cannon shots + 3 s8 AP (not sure) will tear up most.

Thanks for the opinions everyone. I've taken them on board and made some changes - I've separated the attack bikes into an attack bike squad, but kept one bike squad with melta guns because I want a couple of options on turn 1 for dealing with vehicles (and not just AV14, transports too) and monstrous creatures, and grav-guns just won't cut it against them.

I've dropped the power fists from the command squad and added another grav gun and apothecary, because you're all right, FnP for your warlord and his unit is too good to pass up. I've kept the champion, because I expect this unit to see some combat seeing as it's running with the Khan. Also for the price of a power weapon anywhere else you're getting +1WS, a power weapon AND a storm shield.

I'm also keeping the Stormravens, because one IS being used as a transport, and the other will be when I expand the army to 1850 and then 2000pts.

What do you guys think now? I'm pretty happy - plenty of scoring units, anti-tank/anti-MC is covered by the melta on the bikes and the ravens, heavy-infantry by the grav-gun spam, lighter infantry by the twin-linked boltguns and assault cannons, anti air by the ravens - am I missing anything?


HQ
Kor'Sarro Khan (360pts)
Moondrakkan

Command Squad (210pts)
Apothecary, Bikes, Company Champion, 3x Grav-gun

Troops
Bike Squad (Troops) (135pts)
Biker Sergeant and 4x Space Marine Bikers, 2x Grav-gun

Bike Squad (Troops) (135pts)
Biker Sergeant and 4x Space Marine Bikers, 2x Grav-gun

Bike Squad (Troops) (135pts)
Biker Sergeant and 4x Space Marine Bikers, 2x Grav-gun

Bike Squad (Troops) (125pts)
Biker Sergeant and 4x Space Marine Bikers, 2x Melta-gun

Tactical Squad (85pts)
Space Marine Sergeant w/ Combi-Flamer, 4x Space Marine, Flamer


Fast Attack
Attack Bike Squad (110pts)
2 x Attack Bike w/Multi-Melta

Heavy Support
Stormraven Gunship with Twin-Linked Assault Cannon, Twin-Linked Multi-Melta (200pts)
Stormraven Gunship with Twin-Linked Assault Cannon, Twin-Linked Multi-Melta (200pts)