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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/24 21:29:56
Subject: 1850 Tournament List Serpent Eldar or Wraith Eldar or Eldar/Iron Hands. You Decide!
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Hello friends, wracking my brain over an upcoming tournament this saturday and I'm trying to come up with something unfair and broken.. But these lists are all that I've got.
List 1:
Eldrad
5x Wraithguard w/ cannons
5x Wraithguard w/ scythes
5x Dire Avengers
5x Dire Avengers
5x Dire Avengers
5x Wave Serpents w/ scatter laser/ holo fields
3x Windriders
3x Windriders
Wraithknight w/ suncannon/ scatter laser/ scatter shield
Serpent Max here, Eldrad gives the entire fleet a 2+ cover once per game as I take as much of the board as possible and prepare to unload my wraiths and swarm my skimmers like hornets. Relying totally on the survival of those dire avengers and jetbikes... But, I've got a ton of wave serpents and a couple really powerful units of wraithguard, backed by divination and the knight to deal with anything too rough/ clear enemy objective grabbers from range.
List 2
Eldrad
Spiritseer
5x Wraithguard w/ cannons
5x Wraithguard w/ scythes
6x Dire Avengers
5x Dire Avengers
4x Wave Serpents w/ scatter laser/ holo fields
3x Windriders
9x Warp Spiders
Wraithknight w/ suncannon/ scatter laser/ scatter shield
Kind of a mixed bag this time, don't want to max out on wraith units, because I want to drop shields with my Davu avengers inside as much as possible. Warp Spiders are a solid gap filler and I can now take objectives with my wraiths.
List 3
Eldrad
Spiritseer
5x Wraithguard
5x Dire Avengers
2x Wave Serpents w/ scatter laser/ holo fields
3x Windriders
5x Rangers
Wraithknight w/ suncannon/ scatter laser/ scatter shield
Iron Hands:
Master of the Forge
3x Grav Cannon Centurions w/ hurricane bolters and amps
Land Raider Crusader
5x Scouts w/ camo cloaks/ bolters
This list was my original concept going into this tournament after two weeks of playtesting the new marine dex. It features a minimized serpent strike force that should arrive on one of the opponents flanks around turn two alongside a wraithknight and a land raider from hell. The whole concept relies on a few overpowered units to do all of the work and scrier's gaze to keep those cheap scoring units off the board as long as possible while all of the opponents ability to destroy them/take objectives is overwhelmed. Most interesting to me, but I was advised that the cheasiest option with Eldar would be the serpent fleet and I've already butchered my fire prisms to make extra, so I could go either way.
I thank you all for your contribution! Whether it be constructive criticism of any of the lists/ modification/ combinations or why you think one is the solid choice above the others. I truly appreciate it.
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Death is just the beginning, for those who walk the path of Valhalla. Flesh is the stuff of the enemy, transcend it, for only in spirit are the Eldar truly eternal. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/08 01:49:16
Subject: 1850 Tournament List Serpent Eldar or Wraith Eldar or Eldar/Iron Hands. You Decide!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I like the second list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/08 02:42:18
Subject: Re:1850 Tournament List Serpent Eldar or Wraith Eldar or Eldar/Iron Hands. You Decide!
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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I'd say 1st list, but I'd make a couple of changes.
Make the Wraithknight Stock. Combine the Jetbikes into one squad of 5, pick up a Spiritseer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/08 03:18:57
Subject: 1850 Tournament List Serpent Eldar or Wraith Eldar or Eldar/Iron Hands. You Decide!
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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Spiritseer 5x Wraithguard w/ cannons 5x Wraithguard w/ scythes 5x Dire Avengers 5x Dire Avengers 5x Dire Avengers 5x Wave Serpents w/ scatter laser/ holo fields 2x7 Warp spiders Wraithknight Total: 1816 I don't really think eldrad is worth it, especially when you could just take a spiritseer and get wraith as troops. I just played a game with 28 spiders and it was aweeesome. I would recommend using them
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  Craftworlds Eldar: 8500
Dark Eldar: 1000
Harlequins: 1000
Raven Guard: 1500
Tyranids: 1500
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/08 13:18:25
Subject: 1850 Tournament List Serpent Eldar or Wraith Eldar or Eldar/Iron Hands. You Decide!
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Agile Revenant Titan
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eeehhhh list 1. dont really see what eldrad does in these lists that is worth the 60+ points more your spedning than a farseer. helvost list is good tho
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/08 18:29:56
Subject: 1850 Tournament List Serpent Eldar or Wraith Eldar or Eldar/Iron Hands. You Decide!
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Duly noted on the spiders. Eldrad did great against the Tau, but in the final round I ended up facing Serpent Spam to counter serpent spam, and I was outserpented.. The wraiths and Eldrad all served no purpose for their great cost.. I'm starting to see how powerful tons of cheap killing units can be. Especially when allied with dark eldar.. Much noted on the spiders, thanks.
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Death is just the beginning, for those who walk the path of Valhalla. Flesh is the stuff of the enemy, transcend it, for only in spirit are the Eldar truly eternal. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/08 18:34:00
Subject: 1850 Tournament List Serpent Eldar or Wraith Eldar or Eldar/Iron Hands. You Decide!
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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Iyandenseer wrote:Duly noted on the spiders. Eldrad did great against the Tau, but in the final round I ended up facing Serpent Spam to counter serpent spam, and I was outserpented.. The wraiths and Eldrad all served no purpose for their great cost.. I'm starting to see how powerful tons of cheap killing units can be. Especially when allied with dark eldar.. Much noted on the spiders, thanks.
Which list did you end up taking? What opponents and lists did you face? How did you do in each game and what was the strong point of your list?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/08 18:54:28
Subject: Re:1850 Tournament List Serpent Eldar or Wraith Eldar or Eldar/Iron Hands. You Decide!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Also curious how you did.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/11 18:14:33
Subject: 1850 Tournament List Serpent Eldar or Wraith Eldar or Eldar/Iron Hands. You Decide!
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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I ended up taking the serpent max list. Changed the windriders for some guardians and a warlock, and one wave serpent for a falcon.. Clearly a mistake.
My first two games were against Tau.
Game 1 had my opponent shouting cheese by the first turn. Tabled him by turn 4.
Game 2 was against a good friend of mine who was running two riptides. Turn 1 I killed his forward broadsides, Turn 2 I scrambled to handle his crisis bomb and advanced my most of my serpents forward. His riptides went down to weight of serpent fire and Eldrad's force weapon. Came down to objectives, I used Turn 5 to decimate his kroot and fire warriors while dropping my dire avengers out for the win.
Game 3 I faced an Eldar player with five serpents with dark eldar allies, wraithknight, war walkers and a farseer on bike with a couple of windriders. I got the first turn and despite night fighting I downed one of his serpents and managed to get first blood and warlord by a scattered suncannon shot killing a single jetbike causing his seer to run off the board. The game came down to him rolling better serpent shield shots than I did, my wraithknight failing a bunch of 3+ saves for some reason and the general ineffectiveness of my wraiths against his fat free army. Nothing, but skimmers and firepower. This same player tabled our Tyranid player turn 2. Just wow..
Coincidentally I'm now allying Dark Eldar and trying out a seer council. Hopefully the Baron/Grisly Trophies will be a potent combo for my craftworlders.
All in all, the two wave serpent lists at the tournament went straight to the top, while my list got shot down, I'd say that we demonstrated this outrageously strong tactic against the lesser races quite admirably.
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Death is just the beginning, for those who walk the path of Valhalla. Flesh is the stuff of the enemy, transcend it, for only in spirit are the Eldar truly eternal. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/11 18:21:53
Subject: 1850 Tournament List Serpent Eldar or Wraith Eldar or Eldar/Iron Hands. You Decide!
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Eldrad
5x Wraithguard w/ cannons
5x Wraithguard w/ scythes
5x Dire Avengers
5x Dire Avengers
5x Dire Avengers
5x Wave Serpents w/ scatter laser/ holo fields
3x Windriders
3x Windriders
Wraithknight w/ suncannon/ scatter laser/ scatter shield
I'd drop Eldrad for one or two Jetseers, add underslung shuricannons, take more scythes instead of cannons, give the WK the std loudout, and add shuricannons to the Windriders.
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