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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/28 11:18:06
Subject: Can assault marines with jump packs ride in land raiders
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Please quote for me the rules. Thanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/28 11:21:30
Subject: Can assault marines with jump packs ride in land raiders
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The rules allow Infantry to embark transport vehicles (page 79, from memory)
Are asault marines with jump packs Infantry?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/28 11:25:13
Subject: Re:Can assault marines with jump packs ride in land raiders
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Actually ... YES they are in fact infantry, but they must adhere to infantry rules as well as jump rules. (pg 47 top of page)
As far as Land Raiders go their transport capacity does not include Jump so that would be a negative.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/28 11:36:02
Subject: Re:Can assault marines with jump packs ride in land raiders
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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I found the rule on 78 prohibiting Jump Infantry from riding in transports. Nevermind and thanks for the replies!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/28 11:51:17
Subject: Can assault marines with jump packs ride in land raiders
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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Yet they can ride in storm ravens, taking up two slots instead of one. Automatically Appended Next Post: or they used to be able too
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/28 12:58:20
Subject: Can assault marines with jump packs ride in land raiders
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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Lemartes12 wrote:Yet they can ride in storm ravens, taking up two slots instead of one.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
or they used to be able too
They still can.
Because the Storm raven rules allow them to(also it can carry another vehicle, which is decidedly not Infantry in any form).
And Nos; Jump infantry are still Infantry, they just also have the jump subtype. This is clearly stated in the Jump unit-type rules. Jump infantry cannot normally ride in vehicles because the Transport rules specifically deny them from doing so, not because of an added subtype.
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This is my Rulebook. There are many Like it, but this one is mine. Without me, my rulebook is useless. Without my rulebook, I am useless.
Stop looking for buzz words and start reading the whole sentences.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/28 18:16:28
Subject: Can assault marines with jump packs ride in land raiders
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Chosen Baal Sec Youngblood
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jump infantry can you vechiles their jump pack count as two guys like the terminators
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/28 18:23:24
Subject: Can assault marines with jump packs ride in land raiders
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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sproutmonkey92 wrote:jump infantry can you vechiles their jump pack count as two guys like the terminators
That's not a sentence and it's also not what the rules say. See the above posts for clarification.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/29 20:35:01
Subject: Can assault marines with jump packs ride in land raiders
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War Walker Pilot with Withering Fire
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In the SM Codex, Rhinos and Razorbacks are limited from Bulk, Very Bulk or Extremely Bulky Models. Meanwhile, Drop Pods and Land Raiders simply list their transport capacity, allowing models of any size ratio as long as they fit in the capacity. I'm not sure about the other codexes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/29 21:18:31
Subject: Can assault marines with jump packs ride in land raiders
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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evildrspock wrote: Meanwhile, Drop Pods and Land Raiders simply list their transport capacity, allowing models of any size ratio as long as they fit in the capacity. I'm not sure about the other codexes.
This isn't true. You still cannot place jump infantry in there due to the transport rules in the brb are nothing overcomes those restrictions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/29 21:55:05
Subject: Can assault marines with jump packs ride in land raiders
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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liturgies of blood wrote: evildrspock wrote: Meanwhile, Drop Pods and Land Raiders simply list their transport capacity, allowing models of any size ratio as long as they fit in the capacity. I'm not sure about the other codexes.
This isn't true. You still cannot place jump infantry in there due to the transport rules in the brb are nothing overcomes those restrictions.
No it is true. You can fit bulky, Very bulky, and extremely bulky models in a land raider; it's just that Jump/Jet Infantry are still specifically disallowed in the BRB.
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This is my Rulebook. There are many Like it, but this one is mine. Without me, my rulebook is useless. Without my rulebook, I am useless.
Stop looking for buzz words and start reading the whole sentences.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/29 22:04:11
Subject: Can assault marines with jump packs ride in land raiders
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War Walker Pilot with Withering Fire
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Kommissar Kel wrote: liturgies of blood wrote: evildrspock wrote: Meanwhile, Drop Pods and Land Raiders simply list their transport capacity, allowing models of any size ratio as long as they fit in the capacity. I'm not sure about the other codexes.
This isn't true. You still cannot place jump infantry in there due to the transport rules in the brb are nothing overcomes those restrictions.
No it is true. You can fit bulky, Very bulky, and extremely bulky models in a land raider; it's just that Jump/Jet Infantry are still specifically disallowed in the BRB.
I wrote my comment thinking that covered the Jump Infantry and had neglected the BRB rules restricting Jump/Jet Infantry models unless otherwise specified. It still allows models like Terminators and Centurions though in LR's.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/30 19:18:58
Subject: Can assault marines with jump packs ride in land raiders
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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Kommissar Kel wrote: liturgies of blood wrote: evildrspock wrote: Meanwhile, Drop Pods and Land Raiders simply list their transport capacity, allowing models of any size ratio as long as they fit in the capacity. I'm not sure about the other codexes.
This isn't true. You still cannot place jump infantry in there due to the transport rules in the brb are nothing overcomes those restrictions.
No it is true. You can fit bulky, Very bulky, and extremely bulky models in a land raider; it's just that Jump/Jet Infantry are still specifically disallowed in the BRB.
It isn't ture. If you cannot fit any model in then it's not true. "You can fit any in bar those that aren't allowed" isn't the same as "any that fit". Not trying to be a dick just trying to make sure any noobs don't get the wrong idea that they can run 8 man assault squads out of a crusader with jump packs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/30 19:29:44
Subject: Can assault marines with jump packs ride in land raiders
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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liturgies of blood wrote: Kommissar Kel wrote: liturgies of blood wrote: evildrspock wrote: Meanwhile, Drop Pods and Land Raiders simply list their transport capacity, allowing models of any size ratio as long as they fit in the capacity. I'm not sure about the other codexes.
This isn't true. You still cannot place jump infantry in there due to the transport rules in the brb are nothing overcomes those restrictions.
No it is true. You can fit bulky, Very bulky, and extremely bulky models in a land raider; it's just that Jump/Jet Infantry are still specifically disallowed in the BRB.
It isn't ture. If you cannot fit any model in then it's not true. "You can fit any in bar those that aren't allowed" isn't the same as "any that fit". Not trying to be a dick just trying to make sure any noobs don't get the wrong idea that they can run 8 man assault squads out of a crusader.
I run 10 man assault squads in a land raider all the time, of course I play Blood Angels and they ditch their jump packs for a discount on their DT, so they are just infantry and not Jump Infantry anymore.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/30 19:38:01
Subject: Can assault marines with jump packs ride in land raiders
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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Fixed the above.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/01 00:08:20
Subject: Can assault marines with jump packs ride in land raiders
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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liturgies of blood wrote: Kommissar Kel wrote: liturgies of blood wrote: evildrspock wrote: Meanwhile, Drop Pods and Land Raiders simply list their transport capacity, allowing models of any size ratio as long as they fit in the capacity. I'm not sure about the other codexes.
This isn't true. You still cannot place jump infantry in there due to the transport rules in the brb are nothing overcomes those restrictions.
No it is true. You can fit bulky, Very bulky, and extremely bulky models in a land raider; it's just that Jump/Jet Infantry are still specifically disallowed in the BRB.
It isn't ture. If you cannot fit any model in then it's not true. "You can fit any in bar those that aren't allowed" isn't the same as "any that fit". Not trying to be a dick just trying to make sure any noobs don't get the wrong idea that they can run 8 man assault squads out of a crusader with jump packs.
You are misunderstanding what I was saying.
What I was saying is that models of any bulkiness can fit into any vehicle that does not specifically bar them(this is also what evilDrSpock had said).
You will note that I also stated that Jump/jetpack infantry models are specifically barred from entering any transport that does not specifically allow them to.
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This is my Rulebook. There are many Like it, but this one is mine. Without me, my rulebook is useless. Without my rulebook, I am useless.
Stop looking for buzz words and start reading the whole sentences.
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