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Extra- warlock conceal

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Spirit seer

Elite- 6 fire dragons/exarch quick shot

Troops- 5 dire avengers/ exarch shimmer shield power sword
5 rangers
10 guardians w weapon platform eml
5 wraith guard in wave serpant scatter laser holo and spirt stones
5 wraith guard on foot

Fast- warp spiders w exarch tl death spitters

Heavy- falcon scatter laser holo and spirt
falcon scatter laser holo and spirt
Fire prsim holo


Let me know how this list looks for 1750 pts only thing I can add is another dragon squad banshee squad and some farseers

uhh no. sorry.

but heres some changes to make it good

1) drop all upgrades from fragons. you wont be needing any of them.
2)remove all upgrades from 5 man dire avenger squad.
3) take out eml ASAP. no bigger point sink than those sadly. would recomend shuiken cannons or scatter lasers instead.
4) tak out wraithgaurd on foot, will justdie to easily.
5)remove upgrades from warp spiders in favor of more bodies.
6)REMOVE FALCON. urrrhgg hate falcons.
7) take out spirit stones from serpents and instead add shuinken cannons.
8) with points from falcon, wraithgaurd, and upgrades gone, get a serpent for dire avengers if you dont have anotehr serpent model, proxy falcon as one.(SOO SOOO much better than falcon. in every way. )
8) take out spirit sear instead for luaghing sear (if any of your farseers are on bikes)
10) get d scythes for wraithgaurd.

then your good to go.

Ok

So drop wraith guard on foot? Why not proxy the falcon I just dropped and put them in that instead of the avengers?
I will add scatter lasers to every thing since they make all other weapons tl on a hit but I don't see the point to that when the guardians weapon platform is only one weapon besides doesn't eml give you sky fire?
I can also drop the upgrades from each units leader
The spirtseer makes all wraith guard troops that's why I have him as hq. I should still drop him?
I don't have any bikes and I know that's a big thing for eldar just can't justify the cost for them. I will eventually get a wraith knight and another wave serpant but for now I can proxy the falcons as wave serpent and visa er
I do have another dragon squad I can add to the list and I know the banshees suck now in 6th so with what I have I asked what I can do to make the list better.

Thank you for your input and will use it well!!

hiveking wrote:
Ok

So drop wraith guard on foot? Why not proxy the falcon I just dropped and put them in that instead of the avengers?
I will add scatter lasers to every thing since they make all other weapons tl on a hit but I don't see the point to that when the guardians weapon platform is only one weapon besides doesn't eml give you sky fire?
I can also drop the upgrades from each units leader
The spirtseer makes all wraith guard troops that's why I have him as hq. I should still drop him?
I don't have any bikes and I know that's a big thing for eldar just can't justify the cost for them. I will eventually get a wraith knight and another wave serpant but for now I can proxy the falcons as wave serpent and visa er
I do have another dragon squad I can add to the list and I know the banshees suck now in 6th so with what I have I asked what I can do to make the list better.

Thank you for your input and will use it well!!

Scatter lasers on everything is nice, but EML on gardians is so expensive, and the one s7 shoty wont do squat vs a flier, so the skyfire is usless (pluss i think it costs extra for the mto even have that) scatter lasers goes wel lwith them, because it would do well agaisnt whatever the squad of gaurdians actually shot.
Having wraithgaurd as troops is ok, but a farseer with them is also good. whichever. With points dropped from dire avegners, trade wraithgaurd to have d scythes.
hold your horses, just relised fragons have no transport.

hrmmmmmmmmmm


make wraithgaurd into one big squad of foot, and give the transort over to the fragons, and the dire avengers.

So take out the avatar and replace him with farseer then put the wraith gaurds in one big squad in foot then give the dragons bad avengers in vehicles ? That's what your saying

If you're going to take guard on foot, they need to be in 10's, 5 just don't quite have the survivability. If you're taking 5 in a serpent then D Scythes are lethal! Especially if you use the iyanden codex, which will affect nothing elsi in your list except being able to take the iyanden primarus power voice of thigh light - giving your guard battle focus!

The dragons definitely need a transport, as their range is as bad as the guard, but their toughness is half! Consider a fire pike perhaps. Add that to fast shot, it's quite nasty.

If you.re going to upgrade the avenger exarch, consider a dire sword! AP 2 and you're initiative 6! Every wound caused requires a leadership test or instant death!

Personally, I quite like banshees, I know that might shock some. But you have to pick your fight and protect them. Running them in a serpent is nice, and they can smash things like stern guard with their power swords! Also, reducing everyone's initiative by 5 is very tasty!

I agree on the falcons, I think they are terrible in this Ed! Too many points for not a lot!! Both fire prisms and serpents are cheaper, prisms having a much better weapon, and serpents having epic fire power and survivability! Can't beat that serpent shield. Holo fields is a must on ever grav tank, and cannons are well worth the ten points now that they have bladestorm!

As for anti air, I don't think the points paid are worth it. Get some vauls heavy weapons with eml's in place of the falcons that are now serpents. Or maybe an ADL with Icarus. Alternatively, choose to ignore aircraft. They're not all that great. Similarly if you run SL and cannons on the serpents that could be a shed load of shots going at an aircraft! You'll role a few 6's!

If your going to run the guard as 10 on foot, don't bother with scythes. I still think the spirit seer is worth it for battle focus and spirit marking!

Oh, and wraith knights rule!

Eldar seem to have risen from the ashes since the new codex came out