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Hey dakka

ok so I've managed to amass around 6000 points of Tau now and am looking to add some variety to my collection so I was wondering your opinions on what I should start to collect next. I don't want to do something that's going tovhave its codex replaced right away so I'm looking for something that will be around for a bit but I'm open to just about any army so long as it plays differently than my Tau. Or should I wait and see what codex comes out next?

Papa Nurgle wants YOU to spread his gifts.

How do they play? I need a bit of a play style description with the suggestions to make an educated guess... although I do like gifts...

Chaos daemons is an aggressive assault oriented codex with FUN* throughout.

You can run a nurgle flying circus that rushes your opponent with T5-8 demon princes all with instant death baleswords and a nigh-unkillable HQ (Toughness 10, what?). Also you get to kill stuff with mindbullets, something your Tau don't ever get to do. There's also this warpstorm table that makes the game even more FUN* for both of the players.

But mono-nurgle isn't the limit. Chaos Daemons has a lot to offer, from a screamerstar (Jetbike deathstar with a rerollable 2++ that eats terminators and shoots 12d6 str 6 ap 4 shots), to ramming 6+ chariots at the enemy, to a hound rush, and everything in between. And yes, you can throw ~60 puppies at those pretty boys in armor and laugh as you slaughter them.

*Fun is available at the discretion of Tzeentch and may be canceled at any time. Side effects of fun include, but are not limited to: spawnhood, lightningbolts, flaming skulls, rotting, and complacent rage.

See now that does sound like a lot of fun . What's a screamerstar? Tell me more about these hounds please


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An assault army would be awesome; I miss my old BA army from back in the good ol days so assault would be great

Screamerstar, well, you take 9 of these mantarays and add four Heralds of Tzeentch on their own personal deformed mantaray. The heralds are mastery level 3, and you roll all your psychic powers on divination to get the power forewarning. Forewarning grants a 4++ invulnerable, and you cast that on the mantarays. Then you purchase a gift known as the "Grimoire" and use it on the mantarays. The grimoire improves the invulnerable save by 2, to a 2++. The mantarays have a special ability that allows them reroll failed saves of 1, you have a nigh-invulnerable unit until you fail to cast the grimoire/forewarning.

The puppies, well, the actual model are these lizard dogs, but they're horribly overpriced. So instead, you convert these cutesy widdle puppies. For every 20, you add a Herald of Khorne on juggernaut so you can give the puppies rage and an ap 2 can opener. A full squad of puppies (20) with the juggernaut guy will get ~80 attacks at strength 5 on the charge. And did I tell you they're two wounds each? They also have scout and are beasts - so they get reliable turn 2 charges and sometimes even 1st turn charges, provided you go second.

Well now... the puppies are in the daemons codex? So are the mantarays?

Yep, "Screamers of Tzeentch" are the mantarays and the puppies are "Flesh Hounds of Khorne".

I forgot to mention - the puppies have a 4+ deny the witch as a nice little bonus.

Guess I'm getting the daemons codex lol, I'll wait till tomorrow to see if anyone else has any other suggestions but you make a convincing argument. What would you suggest for hq and other units (to handle armour/flying)


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Is there a new codex coming out soon?

i run orks and tau, they feel pretty much exactly the opposite playstyle to me. However that throws out the "new codex soon" point you made as theyre rumored to be coming up soon lol.

As mentioned before, Chaos Demons are another big shift in the playstyle, however a lot of people view them as a bit overly randomized, and i'd have to agree. I cant play atm because my stuff is in the mail but i spectate games every friday at the FLGS, and ive never seen the Daemon players have an even game. They either rolled what they wanted, or at least something useful, and crushed their opponents - or rolled insanely horrible luck and barely survived to the end of the game (still losing but not tabled).

You could wait a month or two and get Tyranids, theyre supposed to be the next codex anyway, and theyre heavy assault based too.

Tyranids you say? Is that the new codex coming out and when?

Nothing set in stone of course since its all rumormill but Tyranids are supposedly either next (november) or after the next (january). Considering Old One Eye disappeared from the store i'd say theyre probably next.....just a hunch though lol

Well that's exciting to hear . I've always been a fan of how nids look. Is there somewhere I can read about these rumours like what they will look like; what some of their abilities will be etc

Well, since you have a Tau collection, I'd opt for an MEQ army: SM, CSM, or Necrons.

What's your reasoning for those selections?