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Made in hu
Devastating Dark Reaper




Hi all!

I'm going to a tournament, where you will be rolled a partner (players are mostly SM, some IG, 1 Tau) for each turn, and also the opponents are paired randomly from the following:
3 Daemon (with FMC and flamers), 2 CSM (with FMC and heldrake) , 1 DE, 2 Ork (1 with flyers, 1 with lootas), 1 Tyranid (tervigon and flyrant)

What should I do as an SW?
Ignore all those flyers, and concentrete on infantry? Only 1 IG and 1 SM will have flyers, so my partners won't have much defense against flyers either.

I'm torn between the following lists:

1. 2X 10 GH in drop pod, 2X 5 ML LF and a Rune Priest.

2. Rune Priest with Saga of the Beastslayer, LL and MH, Rune Priest with Prescience, 1X 10 GH, 1X 9 GH, 1X 5 ML LF , 3 drop pods (LF drop pod comes in empty on 2nd turn)

3. MSU: 5X GH packs of 5 GH with 1 special weapon + 1 WG with combi plasma, 1X 5 ML, Rune Priest

4. Wolf Priest, leading 10 GH with plasmaguns, outflanking with Saga of the Hunter; 8X WG (2 TDA, 1 heavy flamer, 1 SS, 3 combi melta, 4 combi plasma); 10X GH with 2 meltaguns, 3 drop pods (outflanking units' comes in empty)

Or some combination of the above, or something completely different?


Please, what's your idea, what should i take?
I love Long Fangs and drop pods, but this tournament looks like I'm going to get tabled fast.




   
Made in us
Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader





Massachusetts

Since you will have a partner, I would recommend that you focus on what Space Wolves are good at - getting up close with the enemy. That means a drop pod list with lots of Grey Hunters and some Long Fangs as back-up. When faced with an enemy that has lots of flyers, you'll want to quickly get into and stay in close combat. Helldrakes are bad news, but if you're in CC you'll have some safety.

Also, if you're really worried about flyers, you could consider an ADL + Quad Gun. It's not going to stop a Helldrake, but it's really the best option SW's have without resorting to IG Allies with Vendettas. But at 800 points, you can't really afford IG allies. Hopefully, you'll get paired with someone who has some air defense.

2500 pts

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Made in hu
Devastating Dark Reaper




Well, tournament rules don't allow Fortifications, so ADL is out.

I am leaning towards list nr 4. because I don't think the LF will live long.
List nr 2 is "some" but not "a lot of" GH with LF and rune priest support.
   
Made in us
Stalwart Strike Squad Grey Knight






Wait that doesn't make any sense? They allow flyers but they don't allow, that at one point was the only anti air, in?
   
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Automated Space Wolves Thrall




No ADL sucks for SW! I like list 4, stay with what we do best

Beware of Space Puppy 
   
Made in au
Ferocious Blood Claw






I'd go with # 4 as well.
   
Made in hu
Devastating Dark Reaper




Well, number 4 flopped on the test, along with number 2.

Opponent was tau farsight with 2 riptide + eldar with 2 wave serpents.

For number 4: meltagun squad failed to wound, got obliterated by 1st wave serpent, WG squad couldn't reach cc, only scored 2 wounds on the 2nd (with 1 plasmagun), avengers got out and obliterated them, outflanking unit got intercepted by a riptide, failed to reach cc, tabled on turn 3.

For number 2: opponent started again, killed 2 LF ML's immediately, with prescience all missiles hit, none wounded (on a 4+), RP killed a riptide, 2nd riptide killed the whole squad, 3 GH charged the 2nd riptide, 1 got killed by overwatch, 2 killed by riptide in cc... other GH squad got in crossfire of both wave serpents. Messy (second turn, saved all wounds, third turn failed 11 armour saves), tabled on turn 4.


Any idea what the heck should I bring from 800 points that counters wave serpents? riptides and other mc's? 2x 5 ML LF? Thunderwolves?
   
 
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