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My teammates

Traitor Guard: mostly a gun line supported by aegis plasma russ and vendettas
CSM: bulk of the list is noise marines with havoc heavy weapons and a Hell drake
3rd teammate:?

MY LIST: since I'm new to CSM I wanted a few opinions, I'm trying to add the deep strike / in your face element to our team.

Sorcerer, Lv 2, familiar, terminator armor, combi melta, choas gift ,no mark, VOLW use either lore of fire or tzeench

Terminator Squad (5) no marks, VOLW
Aspiring Champion, choas gift, power Axe, combi Melta
2 with Power maul and Combi plasma
2 with Power axe and Combi melta

Choas Marines (10) 2 Plasma guns no marks, VOLW, Champion with Choas gift

Choas Marines (10) no boltguns add close combat weapons, mark of Khorne, VOLW, Champoin with Power axe and gift of Choas, Rhino

Obliarator mark of Nurgle, VOLW

Obliarator Mark of nurgle, VOLW

my first thought is that Veterns of the long war (VOLW) maybe traded for a 2nd rhino however in practice games that extra LD has come in handy every game multipule times. I sem to roll 9's like its my buisness

I do not have much in the way of models yet, however nothing is built yet

What I have:
Sorcerer Kit
terminator box
Choas marines box
Khorne Beserkers box
40 cultists from dark vengence
1 hell brute from dark vengence
10 vertens from the Dark vengence set
6 Obliarators

Mark your terminators!

MoT if you think you are facing awesome heavy weapons.
MoN if you think you are facing loads of small guns.

Just from the hobbying side of things, you might find it more rewarding to build a list around what you have and then gradually build up to the list you want; for example, build/paint your cultists to use as troops, then add in the sorcerer, some terminators, and the obliterators. This way you'll see a list coming together and you'll be able to tighten up your paint scheme as you start on the heavier and more specialized units.

Also, the received opinion of regular CSM is that they are not great troops; they don't have much hitting power, don't have any special abilities, and cultists soak up more bullets for less points. However, they're your models, so absolutely do what you think is cool.

thanks for the advise so far guys

Fisher the only reason I was going for regular CSM is I can paint them faster. Also they are the reason I was considering a second Rhino and all I want them for is to park on an objective.

I am open to Cultists I'd need to check on how many I need to paint.