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2013/10/09 18:47:55
Subject: Monsterous creatures and challenges
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Dakka Veteran
Los Angeles, CA
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Hey all. I have heard that wraithknights and/or riptides can issue and accept challenges. Reading through the rules this seems to not be the case. Am I missing anything? Can they accept challenges?
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2013/10/09 18:48:36
Subject: Monsterous creatures and challenges
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The Hive Mind
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 cypher wrote:Hey all. I have heard that wraithknights and/or riptides can issue and accept challenges. Reading through the rules this seems to not be the case. Am I missing anything? Can they accept challenges?
Are they Characters?
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My beautiful wife wrote:Trucks = Carnifex snack, Tanks = meals.
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2013/10/09 18:49:14
Subject: Monsterous creatures and challenges
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Check the Unit Type.
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2013/10/09 18:51:37
Subject: Monsterous creatures and challenges
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Riptides and Wraithknights are not characters, but Wraithlords are.
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2013/10/09 18:55:26
Subject: Monsterous creatures and challenges
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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The only RIptide character is O'Vesa from the Farsight Enclave Supplement.
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2013/10/09 22:36:27
Subject: Re:Monsterous creatures and challenges
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Only a MC that is also a Character can issue and accept Challenges.
Dreadknights are characters, but Riptides and Wraithknights are not IIRC.
Being a MC has no specific interaction with you being able to issue and accept challenges. You need to have the Character rule to do that.
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2013/10/09 23:33:11
Subject: Monsterous creatures and challenges
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Tunneling Trygon
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Trygon Primes, Tervigons and Hive Tyrants and Swarmlord are all Characters too!
Dunno if that helps, I just like point it out 
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2013/10/09 23:35:35
Subject: Monsterous creatures and challenges
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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 Bloodhorror wrote:Trygon Primes, Tervigons and Hive Tyrants and Swarmlord are all Characters too!
Dunno if that helps, I just like point it out
And Wraithlords. Also Old One Eye.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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2013/10/10 12:15:13
Subject: Monsterous creatures and challenges
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Raging Ravener
Powys
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 Happyjew wrote: Bloodhorror wrote:Trygon Primes, Tervigons and Hive Tyrants and Swarmlord are all Characters too!
Dunno if that helps, I just like point it out
And Wraithlords. Also Old One Eye.
While we're rattling off MC (Character) units, I'll throw Nemesis Dreadknights onto the list. Which sucks when they get nominated as the target of a CSM Murder Sword and then have to spend the game avoiding said sword bearer...
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I play a few armies:
Forces of Order: Grey Knights & Eldar
Forces of Disorder: Dark Eldar
Forces of 'we don't care, we're just going to eat you anyway': Tyranids
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Also went in for Rampage with the DBX KS. |
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2013/10/10 12:21:31
Subject: Monsterous creatures and challenges
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Dreadknight was already mentioned 
But I'm supprised the Avatar hasn't.
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2013/10/10 12:28:12
Subject: Monsterous creatures and challenges
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Hoary Long Fang with Lascannon
Armageddon, Pry System, Armageddon Sector, Armageddon Sub-sector, Segmentum Solar.
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Daemon Princes as well.
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2013/10/10 12:37:48
Subject: Monsterous creatures and challenges
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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 grendel083 wrote:Dreadknight was already mentioned
But I'm supprised the Avatar hasn't.
When your MC is the size of a regular 25mm model, you tend to forget he is an MC. Except when it counts.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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2013/10/10 12:49:36
Subject: Re:Monsterous creatures and challenges
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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It's not the size of your Monster that counts
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2013/10/10 12:49:49
Subject: Monsterous creatures and challenges
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Raging Ravener
Powys
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grendel083 wrote:Dreadknight was already mentioned
But I'm supprised the Avatar hasn't.
So it was. Back to reading school for me!
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DT:80+S++G++M+B+I+Pw40k93+D++A+++/areWD190R++T(T)DM+
I play a few armies:
Forces of Order: Grey Knights & Eldar
Forces of Disorder: Dark Eldar
Forces of 'we don't care, we're just going to eat you anyway': Tyranids
NEW!! For 2014: Deadzone, 40k RPG: Rogue Trader, XWing and Dreadball!
Also went in for Rampage with the DBX KS. |
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2013/10/10 12:51:32
Subject: Re:Monsterous creatures and challenges
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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I know, I know. But how you use it...
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2013/10/10 13:06:17
Subject: Monsterous creatures and challenges
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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How you play with it
My partner has the Epic model Avatar, which is even smaller than the GW one. Has the FW one as well, but if anyone gets funny about them using it just pulls out the other as well, and poitns out that Grots give the avatar a cover save now.... 
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2013/10/10 13:13:44
Subject: Monsterous creatures and challenges
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Would be amusing to see the "Avatar Lineup"
Epic, Rogue Trader, 40k and FW
Like it's growing up
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2013/10/10 14:06:18
Subject: Monsterous creatures and challenges
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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grendel083 wrote:Would be amusing to see the "Avatar Lineup"
Epic, Rogue Trader, 40k and FW
Like it's growing up
You mean like the one here? Thank you Shandara.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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2013/10/10 14:18:48
Subject: Monsterous creatures and challenges
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Regular Dakkanaut
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From left to right which is which?
Im guessing
Regular 40k, forgeworld then epic
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2013/10/10 14:25:26
Subject: Monsterous creatures and challenges
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
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djz05 wrote:From left to right which is which?
Im guessing
Regular 40k, forgeworld then epic
No I think the little one is actually from the Rogue Trader days. So its 40k, FW and then RT.
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2013/10/10 14:29:47
Subject: Monsterous creatures and challenges
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The Hive Mind
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 HerbaciousT wrote:djz05 wrote:From left to right which is which?
Im guessing
Regular 40k, forgeworld then epic
No I think the little one is actually from the Rogue Trader days. So its 40k, FW and then RT.
This. The Epic one isn't there.
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My beautiful wife wrote:Trucks = Carnifex snack, Tanks = meals.
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2013/10/10 15:23:22
Subject: Monsterous creatures and challenges
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Ah good times
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2013/10/10 15:36:11
Subject: Monsterous creatures and challenges
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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nosferatu1001 wrote:How you play with it
My partner has the Epic model Avatar, which is even smaller than the GW one. Has the FW one as well, but if anyone gets funny about them using it just pulls out the other as well, and poitns out that Grots give the avatar a cover save now....
Regardless of the size of either the Grots or the Avatar, the MC will get a cover save if any part of shooting LoS must be drawn through the gaps between the Grots.
I think that's how it works. I recall being incredulous and mildly outraged at silliness of this potential. (The FW Avatar getting a cover save from a unit of Grots/Ratlings because the shorties are between the Devastator Squad and the Avatar.)
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