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Hi there, I have been trying to make a valid list for Ravenguard. Both fluff wise and hopefully dont loose every game.

So would like comments / thoughts / replys.

HQ
Captain, jump, SS, digital weapons, Teeth of Terra. 165

TROOP
5x scouts, sniper. 60
5x scouts, sniper, teleporthomer: 70
5x scouts w. Shotgun , combi-flamer, LSS w. Heavy flamer :110
5x scouts w. Shotgun/bolters, meltabomb , teleporthomer, LSS w. Heavy flamer :115
10x TAC, meltagun, combi-melta, drop pod. 195
10x TAC, flamer, combi-flamer, drop pod. 190

ELITE
10x sternguard w heavy flamer, drop pod. 285
5x Vanguard, jump, SS / TH. 310

FAST
2x Storm Talon w. Skyhammer. 250

HEAVY
1x Tfc. 100

Thats 1850.

Tactic is to go up in 2 LSS, flame, blind, shotgun, assault x2. Deep strike cap + VV. Drop pods in. Storm Talons help, so does Tfc.

Thoughts?

Regards

Kris

This list looks effective. However, I don't think that it fully takes advantage of Raven Guard Chapter Tactics.

The Raven Guard player I fight on a regular basis uses different lists each time, but he always includes plenty of Assault Marines. From person experience on the receiving end, those Hammer of Wrath hits are painful over 5-7 turns.

Even with AP3 bolters, I have a hard time killing as many marines as he can bring. I have an even harder time in assault with them all.

Thanks, but I think it lacks punch :( Maybe taking 10 TAC making them into assault marines with 2 flamer in a pod, getting 100 points to use.

Overall you look pretty good but like these guys have said your not running enought jump and another thing is if your trying to be fluffy you need to swap some of those TH/SS to Lighting claws and you should also try to take Shrike because he does bring some effects to the table that you cant get otherwise other then that swap some stuff for assault marines.

Yeah your right mate... I could go with Shrike, but I dont think he´s worth his points.. And LC are fluff, but they die sooo fast MAybe a mix then!!

Ive tried to put together a Salamander CT instead, and keep the RG fluff for another army.


SALAMANDER
HQ

Terminator Captain: combi-flamer, lightning claw: 131
Command squad: 3x flamer, 2x meltagun, drop pod: 170

TROOP

10x TAC, flamer, drop pod m. locator beacon: 190
5x TAC: 70
5x Scouts: shotguns, combi-flamer, LSS m. heavy flamer: 110
5x Scouts: shotguns, meltabombs,teleport homer, LSS m. heavy flamer: 115
5x Scouts: 4xsniper: 59

ELITE
10x Sterngurds, heavy flamer, drop pod: 285
5x Assault Terminators, TH/SS: 225

FAST
2x Storm Talon, skyhammer: 250

HEAVY:
TFC: 100
5x devestators, 4xheavy bolter, drop pod: 145

better?

i would drop one of the scout squads in favor of getting some comi bolter to you stern guard other then that you need more anti vehicle. thats all i see

Your Salamander list has next to no AT capability. Although you are not likely to face a parking lot of Razorbacks, any good IG list will give you fits because you can't effectively pop armour.

And why not take Vulkan? At 190 pts he is a steal for what he brings, unless you are trying to not run named characters.

Also Speeders are not fluffy for Salamanders, I thought that was something you were looking to hold to.