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Are we able to cast blessings and maledictions from inside a transport vehicle?

I know that witchfires are good to go from inside the fire points, but the rulebook FAQ states that this is the only exception when it comes to casting psychic powers that require a line of sight or something along those lines.

So where does that leave blessings and maledictions? They don't specifically say they require line of sight, so can I for example keep a librarian inside a rhino and cast blessings and maledictions as I see fit measuring from the fire point? or the vehicle's hull?

Or are psykers in transports doomed to do nothing if all they have are blessings/maledictions to cast?

all psychic powers need LOS pg 67 declare target.

Q: Can Psykers use a Transport’s Fire Point(s) to manifest
powers that require line of sight whilst still embarked? (p78)
A: No. Note, however, that witchfire powers specifically allow you to do so and are the one exception to this rule.

So that leaves either targeting the unit embarked or the transport

sirlynchmob wrote:
all psychic powers need LOS pg 67 declare target.

Q: Can Psykers use a Transport’s Fire Point(s) to manifest
powers that require line of sight whilst still embarked? (p78)
A: No. Note, however, that witchfire powers specifically allow you to do so and are the one exception to this rule.

So that leaves either targeting the unit embarked or the transport

Still cannot cast on the squad or the transport.

The FAQ denies all casting aside from witchfire from transports.

 Kommissar Kel wrote:

sirlynchmob wrote:
all psychic powers need LOS pg 67 declare target.

Q: Can Psykers use a Transport’s Fire Point(s) to manifest
powers that require line of sight whilst still embarked? (p78)
A: No. Note, however, that witchfire powers specifically allow you to do so and are the one exception to this rule.

So that leaves either targeting the unit embarked or the transport

Still cannot cast on the squad or the transport.

The FAQ denies all casting aside from witchfire from transports.

You wouldn't need to use the firepoint to draw LOS to yourself even if embarked on the transport. And surely you can see the vehicle you're sitting in. Anything past that and you would need to use the firepoint to see out of the transport to see other units.

That's exactly why I brought this up I read in a tactica on BOLs i believe or Frontline can't remember where exactly that you are allowed to cast powers on the unit in the transport if your psyker is along for the ride with them.

But from reading the FAQ it seems as if the only thing castable is witchfire regardless as nothing else has an exception.

So it seems that people are playing this with blessings casted on passengers with attached psyker or no powers of any kind allowed excpet for witchfires.

So which is the correct method is what I really want to know

pg 67
You must have line of sight
also himself , his unit and his transport or the only valid targets

 Akaiyou wrote:
That's exactly why I brought this up I read in a tactica on BOLs i believe or Frontline can't remember where exactly that you are allowed to cast powers on the unit in the transport if your psyker is along for the ride with them.

But from reading the FAQ it seems as if the only thing castable is witchfire regardless as nothing else has an exception.

So it seems that people are playing this with blessings casted on passengers with attached psyker or no powers of any kind allowed excpet for witchfires.

So which is the correct method is what I really want to know

The faq is only restricting the use of the transports firepoints for blessings & maledictions. It is not outright preventing the psyker from using those power. Just that he can't use the firepoint for LOS.

The FAQ presumes the embarked psyker is targeting a unit outside the transport. With out that assumption the answer would indeed mean that only powers that do not require line of sight (and all powers require line of sight unless they specifically say otherwise) and witchfire powers cannot can be manifested by a Psyker whilst still embarked.

This is however not an errata to page 67 and page 67 very clearly tells us "...a Psyker embarked on a Transport can only target himself, his vehicle or another unit embarked on the same vehicle as the Psyker." for powers the require LoS. The FAQ, when we apply it to situations where the Psyker targets his own transport or another unit embarked on the same vehicle as the Psyker, is a direct contradiction to the BRB. It does not override the BRB in this case.

FAQ entries are only meant to clear up confusion and pg 67 is very clear. The only confusion it could clear up is if a fire point can provide line of sight to a unit outside the transport for non-witch fire powers.

sirlynchmob wrote:

 Kommissar Kel wrote:

sirlynchmob wrote:
all psychic powers need LOS pg 67 declare target.

Q: Can Psykers use a Transport’s Fire Point(s) to manifest
powers that require line of sight whilst still embarked? (p78)
A: No. Note, however, that witchfire powers specifically allow you to do so and are the one exception to this rule.

So that leaves either targeting the unit embarked or the transport

Still cannot cast on the squad or the transport.

The FAQ denies all casting aside from witchfire from transports.

You wouldn't need to use the firepoint to draw LOS to yourself even if embarked on the transport. And surely you can see the vehicle you're sitting in. Anything past that and you would need to use the firepoint to see out of the transport to see other units.

The question was if models embarked can even use those powers. The answer is no.

It is not a matter of what the model has line of sight to, it is a matter of not being able to use the power at all.

A psyker can cast a psychic power if he is embarked in a transport...

"the Psyker must have line of sight to his target. This means that a Psyker embarked on a Transport can only target himself, his vehicle or another unit embarked on the same vehicle as the Psyker"(P. 67, Emphasis mine)

 DeathReaper wrote:
A psyker can cast a psychic power if he is embarked in a transport...

"the Psyker must have line of sight to his target. This means that a Psyker embarked on a Transport can only target himself, his vehicle or another unit embarked on the same vehicle as the Psyker"(P. 67, Emphasis mine)

Yeah, this is pretty clear. Kommisar Kel, what is your reasoning to the contrary?

Because a poorly written FAQ question did not accurately depict the situation it was likely asking about. The answer to said question, when applied to situations that the question likely did not pertain too appears to contradict page 67.

Now, if we really don't want to say that the FAQ is 'wrong' when it comes to manifesting powers whist embarked here is how you do it.

The question does not ask if a Pskyer can manifest psychic powers that require line of sight whist embarked. It asks if a fire point may be used by a Psyker to do so. The answer is no (exluding witchfire) a Psyker may not use a fire point, but page 67 tells use we don't need line of sight, and as such do not need a fire point, if the target is a unit embarked on the same transport as the Psyker, the Psyker's transport, or the Psyker itself.

That question is so not talking about all cases of using those powers while embarked, only when trying to use the fire points. There is a qualifier that isn't required when casting blessings on the psyker, his unit or the transport.