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Hey Dakka and fellow Crons.

So, today I managed to get a game in with a friend of mine against his relatively competitive Tau list (it's not super cheesy, only 1 Riptide, but still has decent dakka) and it got me thinking that the list I was planning on running may not be good enough to compete with that list, and consequently may not be good enough to compete against the rest of my FLGS lists either (Another Tau gunline, Drop Pod Marines/Wolves, Eldar hybrid [only 2 serpents]. GK, and Chaos Marines) who all tend to be fairly competitive guys. I was hoping for some help to fill in some holes/help me see any obvious failure of synergism signs that may be escaping me. So, for reference here was the original list I was running:

HQ:
Overlord + Warscythe + Semp Weave + MSS + Res Orb = 160
Destroyer Lord + S.W. + MSS + Res Orb = 190

Royal Court:
Lancetek = 35
Stormtek = 25

Troops:
18x Warriors + Ghost Ark = 349 (O. Lord was here)
5x Warriors +Ghost Ark = 180 (Lance was here)
5x Warriors + Night Scythe = 165 (Stormtek)
5x Warriors + Night Scythe = 165

FA:
6x Wraiths = 210 (D. Lord)

Heavy:
3x Annihilation Barges = 270

Total: 1, 749

Admittedly, I rolled terribly this game. My Barges couldn't roll more than one 6 all game, and to wound I rolled and obscene amount of 1s, (like 75%). My D. Lord took five Pulse rifle shots to the face and failed 3 (one shooting phase), although he did come back 2 times, but died to overwatch both times because of more 1s rolling (against a pulse rifle round and a lucky longstrike overwatch shot). Oh, and I failed to wound entirely with the Warrior Blob against firewarriors when they shot turn 1...It's really hard for me to tell if this list needs work or if I had a bad game/some bad deployment. I do want to note that I am trying to avoid an overuse of flyers and wraiths. Mainly due to model restrictions/lack of funds. Any help would be greatly appreciated guys/girls. Also proxying is allowed in my group, as long as the bases are the right size.

Here are all the models I have too.
3x Overlords
2x Destroyer Lords
5x Crypteks/Lords (Pariah models)
5x lychguard
10x Wraiths
40x Warriors (Immortals, Deathmarks, etc)
15x Scarabs
3x CCB/Annhilation Barges
3x Ghost Arks
C'Tan
5x Destroyers (Or heavy)
2x Night Scythes/Doom
1 Tomb Spyder

HQ

destroyer lord 160pts
sempiternal weave
MSS

destroyer lord 160pts
sempiternal weave
MSS

Troops

10 warriors 130pts
ghost ark 115pts

10 warriors 130pts
ghost ark 115pts

10 warriors 130pts
ghost ark 115pts

Fast Attack

5 wraiths 195pts
2 whip coils

5 wraiths 195pts
2 whip coils

7 scarab swarms 120pts

Heavy Support

annihilation barge 90pts

annihilation barge 90pts

total is 1745pts

destroyer lord go into the wraiths and the ghost arks go for mid field objectives maybe leaving one behind for your own deployment protection dont jump out of them until last turn to grab objectives unless you have no choice the barges are there for AA three is good but two still does damage. scarabs act as hopefully a distraction to draw fire from the wraith but also as anti tank this list is quite soled and you seem to have all of it so try it out

Yeah, I do like the list. It does seem pretty solid, not sure why I didn't think of it before...Guess I tried to jam too many things into my typical lists, wanting everything and not willing to compromise. I'm a bit iffy on going only 2 barges, but really, it could probably work. I'm willing to try something different to have it work out better. At worst, if I feel the scarabs are underwhelming then I can always throw them out for the last barge. Thank you for the help

I'm always up for more advice guys!

yea you could just drop the scarabs for another barge but try them first and use them to wreck vehicles and taunt you opponment by sitting in the wreckage and jumping onto another vehicle at the right time

Yeah I'm definitely going to try em first as it does give a triple fast moving threat that will chew through most things unless stopped. I know to kill my wraiths my friend had to literally pour his entire army into them to kill them and that was even with my poor rolling so I suspect that with two squads he will have twice the pressure plus I have slightly more resilient shooting. I think it will give him much more trouble now plus be more Durable versus the other lists I face.

I would swap the GA's for nightscythes, drop one scarab base and use the points to give both lords a res orb. Nothing better than watching your fallen lords pop back up at the end of the turn.

Could do I mean night scythes are great but wraiths don't have RP so only the lord benefits from the orb yes it's keeps the d lords alive longer but just for him ok improved list

HQ

Destroyer lord 190pts
Sempiternal weave
MSS
Orb

Destroyer lord 190pts
Sempiternal weave
MSS
Orb

Troops

10 warriors 130pts
Night scythe 100pts

10 warriors 130pts
Night scythe 100pts

10 warriors 130pts
Night scythe 100pts

Fast Attack

5 wraiths 195pts
2 whip coils

5 wraiths 195pts
2 whip coils

7 scarab swarms 105pts

Heavy Support

Annihilation barge 90pts

Annihilation barge

Believe I made a mistake with the scarabs first time you should of had 8 swarms but this right

Most people would say drop the scarabs for a barge, but I think scarabs are a great choice. All I would do to this list is drop 5 warriors from each squad get 2 spyders and maybe a death mark squad. Though these changes won't make the list much better IMO it will make it more fun to play.

I don't really like the idea of units of 5 warriors but yea would be a fun lis to follow our idea

IMO the first of necronspurs lists is better, definitely keep the scarabs, this list is probably about as solid as you can get

yep definitly the firt list is quite good and will be a horrible list to play against if played right

The more I think about it I do like the list especially since it's not quite Wraith or Scythe spam. I really like AV 13 as well since its really hard to crack. Unfortunately I can't get a game in until Saturday, so I'll let you guys know how it goes against my friend's Tau. Or Eldar. Depends on what he feels like playing.

yea please do id love to know if one of my lists work haha