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Does mordrak roll a d3 for each wound taken or just roll a single d3 no matter how many wounds taken in a phase? I think it's the latter as the rules don't say roll a d3 for each wound suffered just roll a d3.

Thanks

1D3 no matter how many wounds taken in a phase. So you only get up to 3 if you only take one wound per phase

With the way Look Out, Sir! was originally written, if Mordrak was at 3 wounds, you could LOS a wound on to a Ghost, roll a 3, and get another Ghost. Over and over and over again. With the way LOS currently works, you might get 2-3 Ghosts at best.

SJ

How so? He never sufffers a LOS! wound, even under the old allocation, and his rules requires him to have suffered said wound.

3 is the maximum, 4 wounds to start.

Tell me how to roll a 4 on a d3? Seriously, though, Mordrak cannot spawn a Ghost while at full health, and per the current rules for LOS no Ghost would spawn if Mordrak avoided taking a wound via a well timed LOS. However, when 6th first came out, yet before the first 6th Ed FAQ, you could LOS an assigned wound before armor saves. As such, every time Mordrak was assigned an unsaved wound via proximity to the attack, Mordrak could roll for an additional Ghost followed by a prompt LOS to pull that wound off before any armor saved was rolled. After the FAQ, and the change to how LOS currently works, Mordrak has to actually fail his save and take the wound before rolling for a Ghost, which means no LOS. Doing it the old way truly did mean you needed a lot of spare models to cover multiple spawns. Doing it the current way, you can't really get more than 3 spawned Ghosts without some creative comboing.

SJ

Where can I find the rules for the Ghost Knights? I'm looking at a friend's GK codex but can't find their entry

On mordraks fluff page.

Well, I'm officially an idiot. Thanks for that

Ghost Knights are part of Mordrak's entry on page 40.

@jeffersonian000, No one said you could get a 4th knight. nosferatu1001 said Mordrak has 4 wounds, so in the course of a game he can only spawn 3 knights with out some kind of outside assistance. Even before the LOS errata Mordark would not have suffered the unsaved wound and would not have been able to spawn a ghost knight if the wound had been resolved against a different model.

The only way to spawn more than 3 additional knights is for mordrak to regenerate a wound with out loosing a knight. Then he could suffer 4 wounds and still be alive.

 jeffersonian000 wrote:
Tell me how to roll a 4 on a d3?

He has four wounds, meaning at most he can lose 3 before dying, and they go poof. Each unsaved wound can generate 1 ghost knight, if taken separately in different phases. Maimum spawn of 3

jeffersonian000 wrote:Seriously, though, Mordrak cannot spawn a Ghost while at full health,

I never said he could

jeffersonian000 wrote: and per the current rules for LOS no Ghost would spawn if Mordrak avoided taking a wound via a well timed LOS. However, when 6th first came out, yet before the first 6th Ed FAQ, you could LOS an assigned wound before armor saves. As such, every time Mordrak was assigned an unsaved wound via proximity to the attack, Mordrak could roll for an additional Ghost followed by a prompt LOS to pull that wound off before any armor saved was rolled.

100% incorrect, and relies on entirely ignoring the rules for spawning

He has ONLY ever spawned at the END of the phase. And only if you suffer an unsaved wound. NO amount of shenanigans with LOS, pre or post FAQ, let you generate a Ghost without him being wounded.

There is absolutely NO POSSIBLE WAY to EVER get more than 3 knights. Entirely impossible

nosferatu1001 wrote:
There is absolutely NO POSSIBLE WAY to EVER get more than 3 knights. Entirely impossible

Unless someone casts Endurance on him

Sorry... couldn't resist...

Or Eldar are somehow able to become BB...

 grendel083 wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:
There is absolutely NO POSSIBLE WAY to EVER get more than 3 knights. Entirely impossible

Unless someone casts Endurance on him

Sorry... couldn't resist...

Except that is currently not possible as GK's do not get Biomancy.

grendel083 wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:
There is absolutely NO POSSIBLE WAY to EVER get more than 3 knights. Entirely impossible

Unless someone casts Endurance on him

Sorry... couldn't resist...

Happyjew wrote:Or Eldar are somehow able to become BB...

DeathReaper wrote:

 grendel083 wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:
There is absolutely NO POSSIBLE WAY to EVER get more than 3 knights. Entirely impossible

Unless someone casts Endurance on him

Sorry... couldn't resist...

Except that is currently not possible as GK's do not get Biomancy.

Its all possible in an apocalypse game. No detachments means no allies means all my models are friendly models.

Yeah, as soon as I posted a definite "no way" that someone would point out my flaw...

In a standard game, I dont see a way of getting more than 3 knights.

 DJGietzen wrote:

grendel083 wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:
There is absolutely NO POSSIBLE WAY to EVER get more than 3 knights. Entirely impossible

Unless someone casts Endurance on him

Sorry... couldn't resist...

Happyjew wrote:Or Eldar are somehow able to become BB...

DeathReaper wrote:

 grendel083 wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:
There is absolutely NO POSSIBLE WAY to EVER get more than 3 knights. Entirely impossible

Unless someone casts Endurance on him

Sorry... couldn't resist...

Except that is currently not possible as GK's do not get Biomancy.

Its all possible in an apocalypse game. No detachments means no allies means all my models are friendly models.

He did not specify Apoc, so...

To be fair, I sai "impossible", and Apocalypse is definitely "possible"

nosferatu1001 wrote:
To be fair, I sai "impossible", and Apocalypse is definitely "possible"

Sure, but the convention around here is that we are talking about normal 40K unless otherwise specified :-)

I excluded ALL possibilities, and I was wrong

Aye, saying "impossible" on the internet is never a good thing

 grendel083 wrote:
Aye, saying "impossible" on the internet is never a good thing

As is saying 'never'

....especially in a GW game, givne the whole game tends to revolve around creating ever more exceptions to rules

It's impossible to say something is impossible in 40K.

 Tamwulf wrote:
It's impossible to say something is impossible in 40K.

Something is impossible in 40k.

There just said it.

Mordrak is at full heath, takes a wound, rolls 3, spawns a Ghost.

Mordrak is at 3 wounds, takes a wound, rolls a 2 or 3, spawns a Ghost.

Mordrak is at 2 wounds, takes a wound, rolls a 1, 2, or 3, spawns a Ghost.

Looks like a max of 3 spawned Ghosts to me.

SJ

Correct.
And no one has said any different...

J - which is what I said.

Someone pointed out IF he could get healed - ITWND for example - you could get more.

Just a reminder to all who read this thread. Grey Knights can have battle brother allies now with Red Hunters, and Mordrak can be 'fixed' by the RH Librarian.

Yep, thats a new "IF" he can get healed. Means I now need more than 3 spare ghost knights if I take RH

Although cant that only happen if they are BB, meaning you need an Inquisitor in the allied detachment, which would likely require a 2k+ game..

oh, your right. You'd need a second primary detachment so you can run an inquisitor + mordrak, not that unlikely,