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nosferatu1001 wrote:
You break no rules by reallocating a wound in this manner. You WOULD break the LOS! explicit permission to reallocate, based upon set criteria that can all be met without invoking FF, and have no permission to deny this ability.

If you havea model in the same unit that can have a wound reallocated to it, then LOS! is satisfied.

FF was satisfied the instant you allocated the wound, same as precision strike was satisfied the instant yo uallocated the wound. Reallocation is NOT covered in the FF rules.

I agree. You satisfy Focus Fire by allocating the wound to the closest model of the specified cover save or worse even if it is a character. You then have permission which has not been revoked to reallocate that wound using LOS. Allocation of wounds and reallocation of wounds due to LOS are different.

And LOS is not a strict reallocation, even GWs wording is very confused on this issue. The bulk of the rule specifies resolving the wound against a different model, not simply reallocating it. Wound resolution and allocation are different and separate though in the vast majority of cases they are effectively the same. The only mention of reallocation comes in when it talks about multicharacter units and only being allowed one LOS attempt. And even then, it is used two different ways in that same sentence. GW almost used consistent language on this rule... almost

MarkyMark wrote:

MarkyMark wrote:
(note LOS is a re allocation, backed by the fact it says you cannot re allocate again) to a model with a better cover save then declared when focus firing. .

Your turn

You should actually quote the rule. The basis of your argument is the contradictory and poorly worded last sentence in LOS.

What you have failed to do is show us rules support as to how the general rule shooting rule, Focus Fire, which specifies how wounds have to be allocated overrules the special and specific rule LOS for resolving, transferring, and reallocating wounds after the condition for wound allocation of Focus Fire has been met.

You allocate the wound to the character satisfying focus fire, you then have permission to use LOS. As LOS is a special and specific rule that modifies the existing shooting rules granted to Character and ICs you cannot ignore with without permission. LOS is already a specific alteration to the normal shooting rules for allocating and resolving wounds giving permission for reallocation. Focus Fire does override it as it would need specific permission, either in an errata stating so for an FAQ.

Shooting Rules apply --> Focus Fire applies to multi model units with differing cover saves and defines wound allocation--> LOS applies to characters in that unit allocated wounds.