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CHAOS!

Lord:
Chaos termi lord with MoN, chainfist, combi melta
142 pts

Chaos Space Marines: Troops

1st Squad
10 count- LC, PG, MoN, w/ Icon of despair. Champ w/ PF & PP
255 pts

2nd Squad
10 count- LC, PG, MoN, Champ w/ PF & PP
245 pts

3rd Squad
10 count-HB, PG MoN, Champ w/ PF & Bolt Pistol
230 pts

Fast attack
Raptors
1st Squad
5 count-2 meltas, Champ with PF, &PP w/ Meltabomb MoN
175 pts

2nd Squad
7 Count-2meltas, Champ with PF & combi-bolter w/Meltabomb MoN
210 pts

Heavy Support
Havocs
10 count- 4 ML w/Flakk Champ with PF, and PP Mon
322 Pts

Predsx2
both w/ twin linked LC and side spoons of LC
280 PTS

Rhinosx4
140 Pts

Total Pts....1999
I run across alot of armour types, and i deep strike the Raptors to go behind enemy lines, i use the extra rhino for a mobile cover save.

lets hear what you have to say.

Few things. Firstly congrats on not using an internet lisst.

But the Icon of despair only gives despair to you because it's a waste of points.

So drop the icon and bring in the combi framers for the preds?

Sounds like a plan, fear more or less sucks.

The Havocs are way too expensive for what they do. Kudos for not taking Plague Marines.

Anti-air havocs, the troops attached are cannon fodder


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As for the plague Marines... It seems like wasted points when when I take regular CSM and give them the MoN they have their toughness, and get the bonus of having a heavy weapon!

if the havoks are there for anti-air you might wanna consider differnt option. given you can easily afford a hell drake for that price I'm imagining you're avoiding that for a reason. (although an anti-air helldrake would be best with the autocanon and not IMHO terriably cheesy) for the 322 points of the Havoks you can try the following options.

1st Option:
Helldrake with Hades AC 170 pts
Chaos Predator with a Lascanons (sponsons and turret) and Havok launcher. (for varity you could also take a Vindicator tank loaded out with all sorts of goodies instead)

2nd Option:
Deamon Prince of Nurgle (I figured you'd wanna keep the theme With wings, power armor, and the dimensional Key. 320 pts your DP can handle fliers and just as useful, he can fly to where you want your raptors to deep strike in and employ his dimensional Key to ensure they get there.


just some differnt options if you want some other options for handling anti-air

I like it, but would love it if there was a heldrake

Do not listen to the two posts above me. They want to bring you down to their level. Do not get the Heldrake. You're better than that.

yay ok so lets review each squad, keeping in mind that you face a lot of armor:

Lord: I assume hes going with the raptors. Going to really slow them down. Maybe take a terminator squad with him instead of raptors. Give em combi-meltas and chainfists.

3 CSM squads-what do these squads do? in 2000 point games you want to specialize units usually. Decide what you want them to do. Do you want them to clean up the insides of transports? take plasma guns. Do you want them to hold objectives? give them a rhino and flamers. Do you want them to pop vehicles? take melta bombs, meltas, and a rhino. drop the icon of despair no matter what. really consider dropping the cc weapons, you probably wont use them. Also-take plague marines. Dont be ashamed. They're good. If you're opponents are going to spam armor then you can use a strong unit like PMs

raptors-as stated, lose them if you were planning on taking them with the termie lord.

havocs-lose the plasma pistol and powerfist. only take more than 5 havocs in a squad if they need more meat defending the boys carrying the big guns. I'd think 5 should be fine with MoN, but i dont know the games you play. Your call.

predators-good

think about obliterators and, crazyily enough, mutilators. You need two parts to your army, things that can pop armor and things that can clean up the units inside. Oblits and mutilators can do this well. Helbrutes can as well.

I can sense the nurgle theme. heres a list id suggest:

Chaos Lord- chainfist and combimelta and MoN
6 terminators- chainfist and combimeltas and MoN-deepstrike in, pop their toughest armor (Land raiders, other AV 14 stuff). Take with chaos lord for fearless.
3 squads of 7 plague marines- 2 plasma guns, combi-plasma, a rhino, and a mounted combi-plasma each. Use for assaulting and holding mid field objectives, and for shooting up what infantry they do have
2 preditors- TL LC and side spoons of LC-pop light and medium armor
5 havocs- 4 ML with flakk and MoN on all-anti air
aegis defense line-give your havocs and predators a nice little cover save
3 squads of 15 naked cultists- for backfield objective holding and adding bodies to your army. stick em behind your ADL and send them out to cap midfield last turn if your PMs perished.

I've never heard of someone having to go up against so much armor, so this may have been no help. Especially since Nurgle CSM armies are mostly about defense, this isnt an easy list to make. Hope this helped

I would drop the flakk missiles for lasscannons because flakk is only str 7 and if a lass hits it will bring it down. Only other thing I would do is give your lord blight grenades and give warpflame gargoyles to the preds I know there lass preds but if you shoot at infantry can can kill some extra models for 5 pts I love it.