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Ok, so I run a fun ghost list. I'm now looking to be able to adapt this list to be competitive. Let me know what you think....

HQ

Farseer - 115 Pts
spear of Teuthelas

Avatar of Khaine - 205 Pts
Fast shot

Spiritseer - 70 Pts

TROOPS

5 Wraithguard - 355 Pts
D-Scythes, Wave serpent, TL SL,SC, Holo's

5 Wraithguard - 305 Pts
Wave serpent, TL SL, SC, Holo's

10 Dire Avengers - 160 Pts
exarch with shimmershield and power weapon

10 Dire Avengers - 160 Pts
exarch with shimmershield and power weapon

FAST ATTACK

6 warp spiders - 149 Pts
Exarch with fast shot, spinneret rifle

HEAVY SUPPORT

Wraithknight - 240 Pts

Wraithknight - 240 Pts

Total 1999 Pts

Farseer is there for buffs and will probably join an avenger unit. the Avatar is designed to sit in the middle to give them all fearless, the wraithknights will hit both flanks hard and try and draw as much fire as poss. the serpents should do the same. The warp spiders can be an incredible pest. if guided should drop fliers too. What do people think? I did consider dropping the avatar for some fragons, putting them in the plain guard serpent, and turning those guard into wraith blades to protect the farseer.

Any thoughts?

I think this is quite a good list. Your using the Iyanden supplement right? I would probably drop a HQ, most likely the farseer. Disarming strike is AWESOME on the Avatar but fast shot is better. I would probably drop 1 unit of Dire Avengers for some Warp Spiders (IMO they are in the top 3 nastiest units in the Codex with Serpents and War walkers). Also the spiders dont need an exarch IMO.
But all this stuff is just my opinion.

Need to drop an HQ. spriritseer counts as an HQ still. Like the dires, and the wraithknights. To be honest would drop the Avatar, and take advantage of being able to have up to five spiritseers in one HQ slot. Also would take the remnants of glory upgrade that says that a wraith unit within 6" gets a wound back on a 3+. Says nothing about having to be out of a vehicle or line of sight to use I believe so you could hide him and heal at the same time.

I know the spirit seer is a HQ, I've used a double FOC.

I was thinking about dropping the avatar, I could Change 1 avenger squad to wraith guard and use the points from the avatar for a serpent for them. I could turn the other squad in to wraith blades with the farseer taking the guardian helm and the wratihforge stone to give him some survivability,

so:

Total Roster Cost: 1999

HQ: Farseer (1#, 160 pts)
1 Farseer, 100 pts
1 Spear of Teuthlas,
1 Guardian Helm of Xellethon,
1 The Wraithforge Stone,

HQ: Spiritseer (1#, 70 pts)
1 Spiritseer, 70 pts

Troops: Wraithblades (5#, 160 pts)
5 Wraithblades, 160 pts

Troops: Wraithguard (6#, 305 pts)
5 Wraithguard, 160 pts
1 Wave Serpent, 145 pts + Holo-Fields + TL Scatter Lasers + Shuriken Cannon

Troops: Wraithguard (6#, 355 pts)
5 Wraithguard, 210 pts = D-Scythe
1 Wave Serpent, 145 pts = Holo-Fields + TL Scatter Lasers + Shuriken Cannon

Troops: Wraithguard (6#, 355 pts)
5 Wraithguard, 210 pts D-Scythe
1 Wave Serpent, 145 pts = Holo-Fields TL Scatter Lasers + Shuriken Cannon

Fast Attack: Warp Spiders (6#, 114 pts)
6 Warp Spiders,

Heavy Support: Wraithknight (1#, 240 pts)
1 Wraithknight, 240

Heavy Support: Wraithknight (1#, 240 pts)
1 Wraithknight,

Thoughts?

better than the first. first would be fun, but not competetive.
in second list i would either drop 5 man wraithblades, or find space to add 5 more. there not super effective as just one 5 man unit.

war spiders dont need 6 mam squad, they do fine as just a 5 man.

The 6th is just to fill my points!

get holos on a serpent instead, thats a great upgrade

I already have holo's.....


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Plus the wraithblades are there as a bodyguard for the Farseer warlord.

oh lol didnt see that ok.

you could drop one wraithgaurd squad in serpent for 5 more wraithblades, then get another spider squad, and have extra points left over.