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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 12:27:13
Subject: White Scars with Blood Angels 1850 pts
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I would like to have some opinions on this list. I mainly face Tau, Eldar, Orks, SM and Necrons. They also do not utilize a lot of flyers, if any at all. This is sort of a fun list, but with some edge.
White Scars primary 1330 pts
Khan with Moondrakkan
Chapter Master with bike, EW shield and TH
Command squad with Apo on bikes, 4x grav gun, 2x power maul
2 x
5 bikers with 2 grav gun and MM attack bike, sergeant with combi-melta
1 x
5 bikers with 2 grav guns and HB attack bike, sergeant with power maul
Thunderfire cannon
Blood Angels allies 520 pts
Mephiston with Codex powers
Scouts with cloaks and 4x snipers, sergeant with combi-flamer
Furioso dreadnought with fragcannon and heavy flamer in a drop pod
Khan and CM attaches to Command squad, everything scouts or infiltrates. Mephiston starts in BLOS if possible, TFC in bolstered ruins or something.
The idea is to pod the Fragnought in their face, so it cannot be ignored, and try to get first blood or just otherwise cause a disruption. CM should be able to take on targets alone, leaving the command squad with Khan. Bike squads should put up a nice strike team and Mephiston jumping towards the enemy they might have issues with target priority.
I am sure this list has many weaknesses, please point out some.
I used Battlescribe for WS, but do not trust its scoring, thus did not specify all wargear.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 12:35:06
Subject: White Scars with Blood Angels 1850 pts
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Prophetic Blood Angel Librarian
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Get artificier armour on that chap master! With the additional power mauls every casualty that command squad suffers will be a bitter blow as you are talking over 50pts a model! I'd run it either shooty or assault orientated not both.
Apart from that - I like it! Especially the dual hardcore threats of the chap master and mephy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 13:22:51
Subject: White Scars with Blood Angels 1850 pts
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Forgot to write it down, it was in the point cost. Thanks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/23 08:01:07
Subject: White Scars with Blood Angels 1850 pts
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I modified the list a bit based on what you wrote. Still done with BattleScribe and I don't fully trust it. I should verify this but my codex is elsewhere..
White Scars primary 1330 pts
150- Khan with Moondrakkan
250- Chapter Master with bike, AA, Shield Eternal and TH
245- 5 man Command squad incl Apo on bikes, 4x grav gun, 3x combi-flamer (can I really do this??)
200- 5 bikers with 2 grav gun and MM attack bike, sergeant with combi-melta or -plasma
200- 5 bikers with 2 grav gun and MM attack bike, sergeant with combi-melta or -plasma
185- 5 bikers with 2 grav guns and Heavy bolter attack bike, sergeant with storm bolter
100- Thunderfire cannon
Blood Angels detachment stays the same. The plan is to not get in CC with the bikes (should not be hard to avoid), as CM and Mephy are close combat monsters and the fragnought cannot be ignored.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/23 13:07:27
Subject: White Scars with Blood Angels 1850 pts
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Prophetic Blood Angel Librarian
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The only thing wrong points wise is your command squad is 5pts overcosted. RAW wise I suppose you could give them grav guns and combi-weapons. Although it may cause arguments and tbh I think that's a waste.
If you drop all the combi-flamers (inc scout squad), drop the camo cloaks, and drop the hb attack bike, you can afford another thunderfire cannon. Another small change I would make is to change two grav guns on a squad with mm attack bike to meltas, with the spare points change the sergants storm bolter to a combi-grav and give the chap master an auspex. This will give you better AT, make that storm bolter wielding sergeant useful and give you the chanve of reducing opponents cover saves.
It is a very nice list though.
Oh just realised - you have that 5 spare points that you overcosted by. Maybe give the scout sergeant melta bombs in case an enemy vehicle trundles by. Or give the furioso a magna grapple instead of heavy flamer so he is a great tank killer on the drop (keeping a melta gun).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/23 17:54:14
Subject: White Scars with Blood Angels 1850 pts
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I've understood that they can get grav. I wish there was an armybuilder update already for SM 6th edition. I don't trust BattleScribe datafiles right now, thus the points can be off. I see the benefit of having second TFC, I'll try to find points for that as you suggested.
I guess I should try this with Excel, seems to give more accurate results
I was supposed to face our Tau player yesterday, but real lives interfered. I think this list should do well, though. Automatically Appended Next Post: And I am not sure of the melta guns. Range is poor and it is only one shot which can miss.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/10/23 17:55:57
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/23 18:10:21
Subject: White Scars with Blood Angels 1850 pts
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Prophetic Blood Angel Librarian
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Yeh but you will have 4 melta shots, should be enough for most tanks ;-).
I think your list should do very well against your tau friend!
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