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Hey, here's some things I can never get straight about the rules. Any help is appreciated.

1: If I have a Guard infantry platoon, I am under the impression that only the basic lasgun infantrymen have to stay in coherency. Does that mean that my heavy weapons squad can sit back and camp an objective while the lads move up field?

2: If I win an assault against say a necron warrior squad but the enemy's allied character is also in the assault and I sweep the warriors, what happens with the character? Does he just remain in combat?

3: If I fire my LRBT battle cannon at an enemy unit that has half its models behind a hill with a few in the open, I target the ones in the open without focus firing. If the blast scatters behind the hill where it still hits enemy models but is outside my line of sight what happens?

Thanks!

 Las wrote:
1: If I have a Guard infantry platoon, I am under the impression that only the basic lasgun infantrymen have to stay in coherency. Does that mean that my heavy weapons squad and sit back and camp an objective while the lads move up field?

If you blob up the platoon I'm pretty sure the HWS has to stay in coherency as well (but I may be wrong, going off of memory and I haven't looked at the IG codex in over a year)

2: If I win an assault against say a necron warrior squad but the enemy's allied character is also in the assault and I sweep the warriors, what happens with the character? Does he just remain in combat?

You can't sweep if there is still a model/unit in the combat.

p28 wrote:Remember that winning units can only Sweeping Advance if all of the units they were locked in combat with Fall Back or are wiped out in the fight.

3: If I fire my LRBT battle cannon at an enemy unit that has half its models behind a hill with a few in the open, I target the ones in the open without focus firing. If the blast scatters behind the hill where it still hits enemy models but is outside my line of sight what happens?

Hit and wound as normal - blasts have this permission.

 Las wrote:
Hey, here's some things I can never get straight about the rules. Any help is appreciated.

1: If I have a Guard infantry platoon, I am under the impression that only the basic lasgun infantrymen have to stay in coherency. Does that mean that my heavy weapons squad can sit back and camp an objective while the lads move up field?


Thanks!

Depends on how you hve built it. With an infantry platoon the different squads within the platoon still behave as separate squads. So if you have a combined infantry squad (2no. Sergeants, 14no. guardsmen + 2no. Lascannons) and a Heavy Weapons Squad (3no. Heavy Bolters) then the Lascannons must stay in coherency with it's infantry squad where as the heavy bolters do not need to stay in coherency with the other squads in the platoon (but must stay in coherency with themselves)

You have heavy weapon teams, which are the 3 2W models of just heavy weapons, and heavy weapon squads, which is what you upgrade two o the members of each infantry squad to.

The single 2w team is a member of the foot sloggers, and HAS to stay in coherency with them

The 3 2W models are their own unit, and so have to stay in coherency with each other.

Thanks guys as for the platoon it consists of

1 pcs
20 man blob
3 auto cannon teams

There are no heavy weapons with the infantry

So you have 9 autocannon? That means you have a total of 5 units - the PCS, the blob, Autocannon team (3 2W models) x 3

Isn't a team the single base? I meant three autocannons. The 2w models look like a team, all chill together.

You have squads and teams. One is an upgrade, one is a separate unit

The 3 man units of heavy weapons are separate to eht infantry squads, so only have to maintain coherency with each other.

 Las wrote:
Hey, here's some things I can never get straight about the rules. Any help is appreciated.

1: If I have a Guard infantry platoon, I am under the impression that only the basic lasgun infantrymen have to stay in coherency. Does that mean that my heavy weapons squad can sit back and camp an objective while the lads move up field?

2: If I win an assault against say a necron warrior squad but the enemy's allied character is also in the assault and I sweep the warriors, what happens with the character? Does he just remain in combat?

3: If I fire my LRBT battle cannon at an enemy unit that has half its models behind a hill with a few in the open, I target the ones in the open without focus firing. If the blast scatters behind the hill where it still hits enemy models but is outside my line of sight what happens?

Thanks!

2: If the Necron Lord is fearless, you cant sweep the fleeing warriors. in the case of Necrons they are all pretty much fearless, so cant be swept..... but the gist of it it you cant sweep a unit if yours is still in combat with something that does not flee.

3: The blast scattering behind the hill doesn't really effect much, you still see how many models it covered and roll for wounds, BUT with weapons that need Line of Sight to fire, you can never kill models you cant see. So if the blast scatters behind the hill and covers four models but only 2 models are in Line of sight, once those two models die, any excess wounds are lost.

2) Necron lords re NOT fearless. Never have been. NO "Necron" units are fearless, only tomb constructs

3) Incorrect, as per the BRB FAQ, and as was already given in this thread.

nosferatu1001 wrote:
2) Necron lords re NOT fearless. Never have been. NO "Necron" units are fearless, only tomb constructs

3) Incorrect, as per the BRB FAQ, and as was already given in this thread.

2) Ok I thought most Necrons could not be swept. I've only played them 2x though as no one in my area plays them.

3) Are you refering to this?
Q: Can blast markers hit a model that is not in the attacker’s line of sight if they do NOT scatter? (p33) A: Yes, as long as the target enemy model for the blast weapon is within the firer’s line of sight.

If so thats exactly what I said, but I added that models out of sight cant be wounded. If the blast covers and wounds 4 models, and 4 failed saves, but only two models can be seen.....only 2 models die.

From the Errata:

Page 33 – Blast & Large Blast, Line of Sight
Add to the end of the final paragraph: “Remember to keep the wounds inflicted by weapons with the Blast special rule in their own wound pool, and that wounds from this pool can be allocated to the closest model in the target unit even if it is out of sight of any models from the attacking unit”.

ok I'd never noticed that before. I was looking in the FAQ portion.

Interesting as no one I know playes it that way, including at the Feast of Blades tourney.

Really? It was a substantial change when it came out, there was a lot of excitement at the time.

Ya know, I just realised that the change for Blast Weapons give them their own Wound Pool, not just a group within the Wound Pool.

I find it interesting that they added that and its directly contradictory to its own rules.... I think the intent is clear, they want blast to be able to kill outside of LoS. But the rule also says to resolve as a normal shooting attack.

More bad writing, but the intent of the errata was clear enough.


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Learn something new everyday.

I've only been wounding models in LoS since a restarted playing 40K, with Barrage, Smart Missiles, and Hive Guard being the exceptions I knew of.

 Las wrote:
Thanks guys as for the platoon it consists of

1 pcs
20 man blob
3 auto cannon teams

There are no heavy weapons with the infantry

SO contents of 1 Battle force.

The Blob is 1 unit. The HWS(3 teams) is another unit. The PCS is also its own unit.

For the sweeping question it would depend if the IC Is attached or just fighting the same unit. If Attached you may sweep and the IC dies as well. If he is just fighting the same unit , then you cannot sweep.

The Russ's shell may bounce(see the third paragraph of the Blast and Large blast rules on page 33 of the BRB), and wounds may be taken from those models out of LOS(but still come from the nearest models first).