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Now i have to get this new codex also to play my marines why didn't gw just put ever thing in one big codex

because that'd lose them money. Business, Zilka, business.

You might want to try harder than that should you wish to troll. Anyways, finger hovering over the report button for ya.

Not trying to troll just want to know why i need. a nother codex to play my marines did they forget a bunch of rules. like now you need 2books to play eldar our tau our chaos

zilka86 wrote:Now i have to get

zilka86 wrote:Not trying to troll just want to know why i need

I'm pretty sure you're using these words incorrectly.

zilka86 wrote:
Not trying to troll just want to know why i need. a nother codex to play my marines did they forget a bunch of rules. like now you need 2books to play eldar our tau our chaos

nope, you don't. As long as you have the basic codex, then you can play your games. If you wish to theme your army around one of the armies GW has supplemented, then that's what they are for. They add extra rules and items/list additions/restrictions so you can best represent an army that doesn't have enough information to have its own codex, but enough character and importance in 40k to have its own special mention. And hence the supplement was born.

You don't need to use the supplement.

How I'm i useing the wrong. so if i want to base my chapter of if i need to get the supplemet to run my army. even thou ther not if but i chapter based off of them and uses ther chapter tactics so you do need ever supplement if ur running a army that can use any chapter tactic. so if i want my chapter to be raven guard in on game all need the supplement also

zilka86 wrote:
How I'm i useing the wrong. so if i want to base my chapter of if i need to get the supplemet to run my army. even thou ther not if but i chapter based off of them and uses ther chapter tactics so you do need ever supplement if ur running a army that can use any chapter tactic. so if i want my chapter to be raven guard in on game all need the supplement also

No you don't. Supplements are entirely optional. I don't see what's so difficult to understand about that.

How so if you want to run a if you now need the if codex to do that

zilka86 wrote:
How I'm i useing the wrong. so if i want to base my chapter of if i need to get the supplemet to run my army. even thou ther not if but i chapter based off of them and uses ther chapter tactics so you do need ever supplement if ur running a army that can use any chapter tactic. so if i want my chapter to be raven guard in on game all need the supplement also

The new Supplement is Imperial Fists only as far as I am aware - nothing to with the Raven Guard and with no additional rules for them...................

You can still run a Imperial Fists army with the standard Codex - the new Supplement gives you ways to change this which may or may not suit your playing style.

You do not need to buy the supplements for any army. You can field a Farsight Enclave with just using the Tau Codex, You can field an Yellow Eldar (Sorry cant remember the craft world name) craft world by only using the Eldar Codex same with fielding Black Legion and only using the Chaos Space Marine Codex and so on. The Supplement Codex are optional not mandatory they provide extra information such as fluff ,rules, formations and so on they are not mandatory. I know people who have armies for all the supplement codex's and do not use them only the main codexs and the rule book. The reason these are not in the main codex because the codex is for all players and the supplement's target the market that play those specific armies.

Hope this helps but remember you do not need the supplement to play

You don't need to get it at all. If you want to read more into the fluff of the specific company/legion/chapter/regiment that is covered in a supplement, go for it. If you don't, you can still field a perfectly reasonable Marine army of any chapter with the existing Marine dex.

Could you please spell/capitalize/punctuate properly? Its incredibly difficult to tell the difference between 'if' and 'IF' in a sentence.

But on topic, no, you don't need the supplement. Its a supplement, by its very definition its extra stuff (rules and fluff) to make a more specific army. If you play IF, then by all means if you want the added rules and fluff, but it is in no way required to play a proper IF army. The basic codex still does that just fine through CTs.

 Blacksails wrote:
Could you please spell/capitalize/punctuate properly? Its incredibly difficult to tell the difference between 'if' and 'IF' in a sentence.

But on topic, no, you don't need the supplement. Its a supplement, by its very definition its extra stuff (rules and fluff) to make a more specific army. If you play IF, then by all means if you want the added rules and fluff, but it is in no way required to play a proper IF army. The basic codex still does that just fine through CTs.

For once I'm not the guy telling people to write with something resembling grammar

 Brother SRM wrote:
For once I'm not the guy telling people to write with something resembling grammar

Well, you just normally beat me to it!

Its just really bad in a thread where IF becomes if, but if is still if, so if you use if or if to represent IF, then it becomes confusing, if you have problems with if and if.

Ok so if you want to run IF our a chapter based on them you need the new codex. new codex over rules sm:codex for running IF got guess i need new codex I'm still won't paint my guys yellow

zilka86 wrote:
Ok so if you want to run IF our a chapter based on them you need the new codex. new codex over rules sm:codex for running IF got guess i need new codex I'm still won't paint my guys yellow

You need Codex: Space Marines to run Imperial Fists. If you want to run Imperial Fists from this specific company, get the supplement. It has special rules for a few chapter relics and a few characters. Nothing special.

U need both to run any sm based on If you need both to run any type of sm based on IF got it guess time to get new codex

zilka, I'll try to explain.
In order to play Space marines (whether it is BT, RG, UM, IF, CF, or WS) you need the Space Marine codex and the main rulebook. That is it. If you want to add the optional IF stuff you would also need the supplement. However it is optional.

It is an optional supplement

You do not need it to play Imperial Fists, but it's there if you want to add more flavour to the army.

You need the Codex, you don't need the supplement.

If you couldn't understand that then I'm assuming you're just trolling.

I understand that. but then why did they make IF CODEX. So it seem that you need new dex to run amy thing based on IF

First there is no IF Codex. There is a Space Marines codex, and an IF Supplement. The Supplement just gives an IF army more options, and background specific to the IF chapter.

zilka86 wrote:
U need both to run any sm based on If you need both to run any type of sm based on IF got it guess time to get new codex

Could you please say that again in English?

Question was answered by General Annoyance In post 5.
Stop feeding the troll

Nom nom nom..... Isn't the supplement just a way of running the same stuff in the codex in neat new ways. And technically if you NEED to run those rules you will NEED this supplement but I am sure your need is slightly over exaggerated...

zilka86 wrote:
I understand that. but then why did they make IF CODEX. So it seem that you need new dex to run amy thing based on IF

It is OPTIONAL! You don't HAVE to use it. It just gives you more options for your Imperial Fists. That's all. Codex: Space Marines is the only book you need. But it you want ADDITIONAL rules for your Imperial Fists, then you should get the new supplement.

I hope that helps.

I don't know why you guys keep trying, OP is a well-known troll. You're never going to get them to understand.

This thread seems pointless.