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hello I have decided I wanted to be chaos space marines so im asking if any one has suggestions or tips or anything on what I need to get and what I should get?

thanks for any advice on this army

You need to decide which god you want to dedicate your army to, if at all. No matter what, though, you will probably want cultists rhinos and heldrakes.

If you want to be competitive then Heldrakes, Obliterators, and Cultists are a good start.

If this is your first army then maybe you should play a few test games to see what you like. Borrow a friend's models or even proxy to get a feel for different units and how they perform.

Is there a specific theme you want to go with? Some players (myself included) like devoting their entire Chaos army to a single Chaos god. This gives you a great looking and fun-to-play army.

Do some research, read some Army Lists here.. : ]

Post one with miniatures that you like first then listen to what people say. In the end, you should use miniatures you like.

Thanks every one

New players are called green for a reason. In WH40k and playing as Chaos Space Marines, that means new players should learn by using Nurgle. The units are hard to kill and will minimize the mistakes taken by novice players.

Thyphus as HQ. Several cultists turned into plague zombies. Two squads of chaos marines painted green to upgrade them as plague marines with special guns all riding in a rhino with dirge caster and dozer blade. Use terminators with power fists and greenstuff on their gun arm to attach additional guns to transform them into obliteraters and give them mark of nurgle to avoid instant death.

Using drakes now would create a dependance on the super weapon.

I would also consider Noise Marines. They are fearless and have access to Feel No Pain, so they can be a better-than-average defensive unit.
Additionally, they have access to the Blastmaster and the Sonic Blaster, so they can also become one of the best offensive ranged unit in our Codex

First step is to read some Chaos Tacticas. Get an idea of how the army works, what you want it to do and which units are simply not up to scratch. A great example can be found:
http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?25877-Chaos-Space-Marines-Tactica


As a buyers list:
You need a HQ and 2 Troops. Chaos is in an odd spot because your HQ directly affects which units you can take as Troops, and so we'll start on the Troops:

Cultists: The favourite 'default' troop, these guys exist to either form a Fearless meatwall escort or to hide in craters and claim objectives. 4pts goes a really long way when all you need is a Scoring body. Keep them cheap, keep them simple and just run them without upgrades. You need a Champion model in every unit but other than that, just keep them basic with CCW and Pistols, don't upgrade to Lasguns and certainly don't get Marks involved. A Flamer is alright if you find yourself with spare points at the end. Normally taken in minimum squads of 10, or go all the way to 35. Very little point in taking a mid-sized squad.

Chaos Marines- The cheapest Marine profiles going, unfortunately you get what you pay for. Generally held to be overcosted relative to Cultists, Cult-unlocks and other Marine Codices. If you want to stick them out I'd roll in 10-man squads with double Plasma Guns and slap a Combi onto the Champion. Marks are not advised unless it is Nurgle, and even then you'd probably be better going the whole hog and just taking Plagues.

Noise Marines- Require a Slaaneshii Lord to take as troops, but really nice as a unit. Excellent firepower that denies Cover, decent assault potential and the option for FNP all combine to make a very versatile, very efficient package. Can be run either as assault units, or as shooting: Shooting always get the maximum number of Blastmasters with Sonics optional, whereas assault units always get the Doom Siren and CCW/Pistol. Consider the Icon in larger squads but it's a bit pricey for the min-sized ones.

Plague Marines- The big boys of the Codex and the best defensive infantry in the game. Extremely simple application, just take the maximum allocation of Plasma Guns and find a nice objective to squat on. Equally proficient in shooting or assault and ludicrously hard to remove, they excel at making themselves very bad targets and so go a long way towards winning objective games. Lack offensive power and so typically run with aggressive support units to actually get the killing done.


Regarding your HQ, I'd keep it simple for now and work with the Lord or Sorcerer.

Lord- Cheap beatstick, confers Fearless and required to unlock Noise and Plague Marines. Extremely versatile options with the only mandatory upgrades being a Mark if you want the relevant Cult troops. Taking a Bike or Steed is highly recommended, as is some form of melee weapon. The Burning Brand can be an excellent tool and there is very little reason not to take a Mark, even if you don't want the relevant troops. I'd always try to find an escort for him, either being Cultists when on foot or using Spawn/Bikes when mounted.

Sorcerer- Always Mastery 3 and always Unmarked. What you lose in slapping things, you more than recover in terms of psychic support. Telepathy is your best bet here and the best reason to avoid Marks, because the Chaos disciplines are very mediocre. Again you need a good reason not to slap him on a Bike, but you can get away without upgrading his melee weapon. I'd still get him an escort and would prefer Bikes to Spawn in his case.

Thanks a lot mozzamanx