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Hello folks!

Trying to get together a list of necrons to play with my friends, maybe a bit in club as well. Casual list.

Any thoughts/commentaries/etc?

14 warriors + night scythe + lord with fire gauntlet, weave, phaeron and orb
14 warriors + night scythe + lord with fire gauntlet, weave, phaeron and orb
3 Wraiths with 3 Whipcoils
annihilation barge
8 immortals + lord with weave, phaeron and orb
Destroyer
Heavy Destroyer

P.S. Please don;t just say "use list X instead" or "Remove X add Y". Explanations to reasoning are more important to me than actual list advices atm :p

Edit: Just to say, i will defo be using at least 1 night scythe, and at least 3 wraiths with whipcoils. So i do want to keep them in the list, even if it means having to change everything else around them.

you cant have lords with phearon only overlords and you can only have 2 overlords plus drop the 2 destroers they are first blood waiting to happen take scythes on the lords/overlords and get more wraiths

oh my i dont know how i have missed the lord/overlord thing! Feels like a really silly mistake, heh. I'll see how i can swap stuff around a bit for that.

@Destroyers: Why do you say that? I heard people mentioning them being decent, why do you recommend dropping them?


Edit: So an updated list:
Dropping the illegal lord with Phaeron from Immortals (-110)
adding Cryptek court with Destruction to immortals (-75)
adding vblades to two Lords (-55)

giving me an option of dropping destroyer & heavy destroyer (-155) and getting another Barge and 2 extra immortals (-31). Either i get something trashy for these 30 pts, or drop the extra mortals and get maybe scarabs or something similar.

Alternatively i can keep D and Heavy D, and just add extra mortals to have ~20pts left to either leave alone or maybe up something

Your Destroyer - Heavy Destroyer pair is equal in cost to a second Annihilation Barge plus 10 points to spare. With the AB's assault 4 tesla gun above firing 3up normal reroll misses and underslung assault 2 tesla gun below snapshooting 6s, that is an immense amount of firepower that could be gained if you trade in that big STR 9 AP 2 shot. Are you really sold on Destroyers that much to not make the switch?

TomWilton wrote:
Your Destroyer - Heavy Destroyer pair is equal in cost to a second Annihilation Barge plus 10 points to spare. With the AB's assault 4 tesla gun above firing 3up normal reroll misses and underslung assault 2 tesla gun below snapshooting 6s, that is an immense amount of firepower that could be gained if you trade in that big STR 9 AP 2 shot. Are you really sold on Destroyers that much to not make the switch?

Im not sold on destroyers, i just wanted to try and get a bit of variety (not focused on it though), plus i liked the idea of lords. If it is really that much of an upgrade, im fine with dropping them (see my edited post above your response)

It's just that some folks are sold on Destroyers. Personally, I run a Whip Coil on each and every Wraith in my army. It's like po-tay-to versus po-tah-to. I've been told it's an excessive waste of points but as soon as everyone in their squad is in b2b contact, the tune changes. But that juicy save the Wraiths have just makes smiles drop off of faces on the other end of the board, and you know the saying "strike first, strike often". Fortunately for me, few see the wisdom of Halberds.

So, what I'm really saying is, what's your favorite flavor? Minmaxing the system only goes so far and then the fun stops.

Well, i've never played Necrons before, so the way my logic went was:

I have a lot basic troops, i have a barge, i have a flyer. I want something that's not "lots of troops", and is another unit to shoot with / have enemy require shooting at, so i figured having two lords (as two separate units) would fit that.

I already run 3 wraiths... or do you suggest running more of them?

I might consider getting a 2nd barge instead of the destroyers, not entirely sure yet. Will depend on how i like the minis as well i guess


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My main question is, do you see anything obviously wrong with my list? Like "Dude, X and Y will never work" etc? Something i just need to stay away from or similar?

If you are running wraiths you might as well run a full unit. I find the most effective destroyer load out to be the 2d3hd, if I have the points for it.

Okay then ill probably end up dropping destroyers and adding more wraiths.

How are C'tan shards? Are they worth it?

Since it is a casual list, and you'll hopefully be playing against casual players, Destroyers can work, but they almost have to be a full squad in order for them to be successful. 1 or 2 are easy pickings for first blood and barely put out enough fire power to warrant their price tag. At a full squad though, they are an effective harassment unit, but do require time to master as they are fragile for what they do. In my experience I tend to find heavy destroyers work the best between the two options. Good anti-tank and amazing against MCs due to preferred enemy. Had mine kill a wraithknight and a riptide in one game. Though I don't think my opponent knew what they did exactly.

Wraiths definitely need to be in squads of 6 to be effective. 3 is really easy to wipe off the board. They are also high priority targets and because of that you need those extra wounds.

C'Tan shards can work, but are super expensive. In my experience a shooty shard is best since it's already pretty decent in close combat. But YMMV

As I said first drop the destroyers they have just 1 wound each with a 3+ even just basic ap4,5,6 or even - aslong as there is enough shots they will just go done like nothing take at least a nit of 5 wraiths at least 2/3 with coils IMO

14 warriors + night scythe + lord with fire gauntlet, weave, phaeron and orb
14 warriors + night scythe + lord with fire gauntlet, weave, phaeron and orb
3 Wraiths with 3 Whipcoils
annihilation barge
8 immortals + lord with weave, phaeron and orb
Destroyer
Heavy Destroyer

Well, not sure if the tactics with the orb is that successful. If you deploy the Warriors from the Night Scythes they should already be in the right spot. Simiarly, I'd give the Immortals a Night Scythe.
The Wraith unit is too small, take 5 or 6, or two squads of 5. Its one of the best cc units out there. Whip coils are not necessary since the weapons that hurt most are init 1 anyway.
Let the Wraith be led by a DLord as your single HQ.
I'd drop the Destroyer and HD. If they get down, they will not come back. The RP only works for larger units. Replace them by AB's with their devastating tesla annihilators.

Okay, thanks for all the comments guys! Very helpful!

I believe this to be my final list, unless i decide to come up with some last minute changes:

14 warriors with scythe, lord with weave and orb
14 warriors with scythe, lord with weave and orb
2x barges
8 immortals, lord with weave and orb
6 wraiths with 3 whipcoils, destroyer lord with weave

You still need an overlord to get access to the royal court.

Oh damn it, totally forgot Destroyer Lord did not give the royal court...
Hmm...

Okay. here is the <final> final list. Lets hope this time without anything illegal.

13 warriors + lord with weave and orb + scythe
13 warriors + lord with weave and orb + scythe
8 immortals + overlord with weave and orb
5 wraiths with 3 whip coils + destroyer lord with weave
2 barges

If i did my math right, that leaves me with 6 points which i could potentially use to give one of lords a fire gauntlet for a template, but not sure if i want to.

Anakonda wrote:
Oh damn it, totally forgot Destroyer Lord did not give the royal court...
Hmm...

Okay. here is the <final> final list. Lets hope this time without anything illegal.

13 warriors + lord with weave and orb + scythe
13 warriors + lord with weave and orb + scythe
8 immortals + overlord with weave and orb
5 wraiths with 3 whip coils + destroyer lord with weave
2 barges

If i did my math right, that leaves me with 6 points which i could potentially use to give one of lords a fire gauntlet for a template, but not sure if i want to.

I'd play the army like this (core):

2x 10 Warriors w/ Night Scythe
10 Immortals w/ Night Scythe
6 Wraiths
1 DLord w/ mss, weave
3 Annihilation Barges

Total: 1370 pts.

I dont want 3 scythes and 3 barges - for a simple reason that i dont want too much of one thing. A bit of diversity will make it a little bit more fun

Anakonda wrote:
I dont want 3 scythes and 3 barges - for a simple reason that i dont want too much of one thing. A bit of diversity will make it a little bit more fun

Okay, then another suggestion:

DLord w/ mss, weave
Tomb Stalker
10 Warriors
5 Warriors w/ Night Scythe
10 Immortals w/ Night Scythe
6 Wraiths
Tomb Blades w/ particle casters
Annihilation Barge
Doom Scythe

That sounds interesting, could you elaborate a bit please? Would go a long way if you could explain your choices to me!

To explain my original choices of weavelord in each squad, is i heard good stuff about playing lords in warrior squads using the lord as bulletmeat to absorb the hits due to weave etc. That's the main reason i wanted to run one in each troop

Well, that's quite easy to explain. The Lord leads the Wraiths. Either as a counterstrike unit or approaching the enemy along a flank. The Tomb Stalker walks into position to support Warriors and Immortals granting them twin-linking. The Warriors on foot either stay back holding an objective or support the advancing units. The HS choices are self explaining. The Tomb Blades are an interesting choice with their small blast weapons.

 wuestenfux wrote:
Well, that's quite easy to explain. The Lord leads the Wraiths. Either as a counterstrike unit or approaching the enemy along a flank. The Tomb Stalker walks into position to support Warriors and Immortals granting them twin-linking. The Warriors on foot either stay back holding an objective or support the advancing units. The HS choices are self explaining. The Tomb Blades are an interesting choice with their small blast weapons.

Yeah, but i meant,what's the reason i would go with this as opposed to what i originally proposed? I'm trying to understand, not just copy-paste someone else's list