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HEY GUYS!!!!

so im gonna play at a 3 day 1000 point tournament at my local GW
im gonna play 4-6 games
so which list is better

Chapter master
every upgrade you can think of
2 tactical squads with plasma cannons and plasma pistols and plasma guns in each squad
10 devastators with a flamer and 3 missiles
5 terminators with assault cannon

or

chapter master same as before
5 vanguard vets with 2 power weps
2 tactical squads
lord commissar
30 guards
10 veterans in chimera

or

chaos lord
20 cultists
11 chaos marines
helbrute
warboss
big mek
14 gretchins
14 boys

any clues on which is better?
want me to swap something?

anyone?

My expertise only really covers Space Marines, but even then I'm still a relative newbie. That said, I'm fairly confident you can't have a flamer of any kind in a Devastator squad.

Expensive HQ's, not many bodies IMHO.

I really dont know what to make of any of these lists except maybe the first one.
The chaos/ork one doesnt make much sence if your gonna run Orks with chaos id run like 2 sqauds of 20 shoota boys with a big mek, and for chaos run like a sorc/ cheap lord or cheap hq in general, and cultists with like havocs with lascannons for anti vehicle or somthing... I dunno maybe just run plain orks or plain chaos by them selves.

List #1.... plasma pistols would be better replaced as combi plasma tho

ok thx for help

Less jack of all trades required, more focus on specific tasks.

I like Marines, they are pretty strong right now.

1,000 pts is a low budget.

Perhaps something like this (don't have codex to hand, excuse me for not knowing points).

HQ (65) - I still think this is the best low cost HQ for SM
Vanilla Librarian (upgrade to lvl 2 Psyker if you want)

Troops (330)
Tac squad x10 with Plasma and Combi Plasma
Tac Squad x10 with Plasma and Combi Plasma

(Do you have any transports? Pods would be good here. You don't really want Plasma Cannons unless you Combat Squad, you want the mobility, and you can't snap shot blast weapons).

Elites (225)
Terminators x5 with TH and SS (far superior)

Heavy (215)
Devastator squad x10 with 4x Missiles and Flakk (you will face flyers)

Total = ~835

Are you in the position of buying anything new? Options I see as useful with 165 points left would be:
- You could afford 3x HB AB's and have ~30 points left to upgrade the Librarian, or put the Plasma Cannons back into the Tac squads, just be aware of the tactical limitations of moving them, I've always been underwhelmed.
- You could afford 1x TFC and have ~65 points left for upgrades (adding 2x drop pods would have you on 1005 points).

What Chapter Tactics are you planning to use? I have a hard on for Imperial Fists tbh, and this would certainly complement their tactics. That said, Iron Hands could definitely give you some nice survivability.

General strategy could be devised on the fly. Can combat squad the Tac and Dev squads as you see fit. IF tank hunters on the Dev's can synergise nicely when using combat squads for pseudo split firing. Take out two flyers a turn with Flakk, or two vehicles, or one of each.

Hope that helps.