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What is the strengths of the Iyanden Supplement?

The ability to run up to five spirit seers as one hq, a wraith lord or knight as your warlord, and voice of twilight replacing conceal as your primaris for the runes of battle table.

While provided by the use of a spirit seer in the Eldar Codex, don't forget Wraithguard/blades can be run as troops ( the core of an Iyanden army).

What units in the codex best support wraith units?

Wave Serpents, but they work well in any army. They work especially well with wraithguard due to there range, Wave Serpents give them a much scarier threat range of 24 '' (move 6, get out 6, shoot 12) and are practically necessary for units with D-Scythes to be of use against an army that isn't going to simply charge into you. They also grant you passable anti air (Not great by any means, but enough to handle other D/Eldar fliers or stormtalons) and ways to pop transports, spilling the content out to your sun cannon/d-scythes.

While Farseers are always good, this army can live without them due to high amount of spiritmarks. So that would leave you a HQ choice for a Solitarch, Eldrad or Wraithseer if you want. Deepstriking units of 5 spiders also work very well to demech enemy troops, and grant mobility and more passable anti air that you lack. I would keep away from units that provide an easy target to shoot at, the point of a wraithlist is to make sure that everything they shoot at is high toughness/survivability. Maybe Ally in a Tau Riptide, they work very well with Ion accelerator to handle big units that wraiths have trouble with as well as having AA. The allied Tau commander is always great, can you say strength 10 AP 1 twin linked ignore cover shots? I can.

Alex

 ALEXisAWESOME wrote:
Wave Serpents, but they work well in any army. They work especially well with wraithguard due to there range, Wave Serpents give them a much scarier threat range of 24 '' (move 6, get out 6, shoot 12) and are practically necessary for units with D-Scythes to be of use against an army that isn't going to simply charge into you. They also grant you passable anti air (Not great by any means, but enough to handle other D/Eldar fliers or stormtalons) and ways to pop transports, spilling the content out to your sun cannon/d-scythes.

I would keep away from units that provide an easy target to shoot at, the point of a wraithlist is to make sure that everything they shoot at is high toughness/survivability. Maybe Ally in a Tau Riptide, they work very well with Ion accelerator to handle big units that wraiths have trouble with as well as having AA. The allied Tau commander is always great, can you say strength 10 AP 1 twin linked ignore cover shots? I can.

Alex

I am worried about Ion accelerators, I want to go the high survivability route but I am not sure I will have enough firepower to deal with hordes. Do you think the eldar can be tough enough to survive Tau fire power?

Absolutely they can. You will need a couple WS to transport and protect wraith units - and aggressive firepower to mitigate Tau units whilst they make the trip. Consider placing objectives about where you believe these units will be unleashed - so that you will be exactly where you should be when you get there - especially with D-scythes.

Eldar are tough enough in general to survive tau fire power, but not in that circumstance. Ion accelerators will wound on 2's and ignore your armour, making a very expensive unit as survivable as a guardsmen. So your best way to survive them is wave serpents, because an Ion accelerator is very unlikely to blow it up, and tau in general have trouble handling them with most of their weaponry either being strength 7 or under, with few high quality but low quantity shots. It takes 6 glances to take down a serpent with a 4+ cover save, that's 18 missile hits. Marker lights you say? A single wave serpent has sufficient ability to route them with their measly 5+ save. Riptide has the ultimate answer in the wraithknight with wraithcannons, that is the scariest thing a riptide can face. Heck, any wraithcannons in range would be scary, but you have little chance to make it into rang without (once again) a wave serpent.

Against Tau in general, Wraithwall has a good chance against them because little of there weaponry is AP 3+. Also they have very little answer to a wraithknight, who will be a big target if played aggressively due to his ability to smash any tau unit. In other words play to your advantage, your basic troops are very resistant to small arms fire and your tanks/MC are very survivable in general. Take out high priority units (Missile sides, Riptide) and it should be simply a game of how many units your D-Scythes can roast.

well i had a fun not competeive tourneamnet (can those even exist) and ran iyanden supllement eldar.

10 wraithgaurd+5 spirit sears was fun. took powers on telepathy and racked up allot of fun powers

hullicnated a 30 man death comany squad all game, just a 1000 point unit out of the game

You guys have been very helpful thanks, this is the list I have after reading some tactics from various web sites.

Iyanden 1850 List

HQ
Spiritseer Wraithforge Stone

Spiritseer

Farseer

Troops
3xWindrider Guardian

3xWindrider Guardian

9xDire Avengers

5xWraithguard

5xWraithguard

5xWraithblade Ghost Axe Forceshield

Fast Atk
10xWarp Spiders

Heavy Support
Wraith Knight (Warlord)

Wraith Knight

3xWar Walkers 2xStarcannon

Tactics/Reasoning

Walk forward and shoot taking advantage of the buffs provided by the seers especially battle focus on wraithguards.

Why no wave serpents for the wraith guard? In the competitive scene I believe that 2-3 wave serpents would not cut it in this list. The wave serpent spam list is really good but in this list 2 wave serpents would be destroyed. The Tau buff Commander with ignore cover, twin-linked, tank hunter would destroy at least 1 serpent a turn and some marker light combo would destroy another, so even if I manage to fit 2 or 3 serpents in the list I think a smart player would find a way to destroy them easily and that would be 270 points down the drain.

I instead went with the best defense is a good offense strategy, instead of 2 serpents I added Starcannon War Walkers, which is good against Missile Sides and Riptides. I originally had 2 10 man dire Avenger Squads but I move things around so I could add 10 warp spiders. I like the option of deep striking and these guys are crazy fast and can do a lot of damage.

The Spiritseers will hopefully get jinx, renewer, or quicken psychic powers. Protect/Jinx increases the save of the Wraiths to a 2+, or make a riptide 3+ instead of 2+, renewer with the stone means I can potentially heal 2 wounds a turn on a wraithknight, and the extra 3 inches from quicken will help get the wraithguard in range. The Farseer needs little explanation it makes everything better.

I am thinking about giving my warlord, a suncannon and scattershield keep it close to my forgestone. 5+ inv save with a chance to heal a wound each turn will make it near impossible to kill and it would add some more firepower. What do you guys think about the list?