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Can the Master of the Forge replace his flamer or his plasma cutter with a relic?

Wargear listed:
Artificer Armor
Bolt Pistol
Bolt gun
Frag Grenades
Krak Grenades
Servoharness

Servoharness:
"A servo-harness gives the bearer an extra servo-arm, a plasma cutter and a flamer"

Therefore, the Wargear list could read instead:
Artificer Armor
Bolt Pistol
Bolt gun
Frag Grenades
Krak Grenades
Servo Arm x2
Plasma Cutter
Flamer

This of course ignores the how many servo arms does a servo harness have argument. It is immaterial in this regard.

If you can indeed replace different parts of the servo harness, you could have hijinks where you gain the ability to have two attacks at initiative (trading the flamer for a power weapon instead of the unwieldy power axe), or your unwieldy two servo arm attacks. This could also let the model trade these extra weapons for relics, as the relics are traded for weapons, vice the melee or ranged weapons, which require a bolt pistol or melee weapon to be given up.

What the best use of this is, or the most broken combination of gear I don't know. Thoughts?

You cannot modify a Harness. It is a bit of wargear in itself. He can have different ranged weapons himself but the harness is always arm flamer plasma.

Why not? A scout on a bike can swap its boltgun out, why not a flamer or plasma cutter? Both are items not specifically listed in the model's profile, but are provided by other wargear.

In fact, there should be less of an issue changing weapons on a servo harness than on a bike, as the servo harness entry says it "gives the bearer an extra servo-arm, a plasma cutter and a flamer", rather than a bike which is "fitted with a twin-linked boltgun".

The Harness is a bit of wargear that he can take. That piece of wargear you can take. So he does not have a flamer he has a servo harness and that has a flamer. You cannot modify a bit of wargear only replace it. so even if you could change the flamer it would replace the entire harness because they are not seperate wargear it is just one bit.

This really is not hard to grasp.

In exactly the same way as a scout's bike does you mean?

I would suggest that its not intended, but as scouts can do it he does have a strong argument

Bobug wrote:
In exactly the same way as a scout's bike does you mean?

I would suggest that its not intended, but as scouts can do it he does have a strong argument

Except scout bikers have explicit permission for up to 3 of them to swap out the bikes TL bolter for the grenade launcher.
It's not at all the same thing.

Do people play x2 arms?

 Truffle wrote:
The Harness is a bit of wargear that he can take. That piece of wargear you can take. So he does not have a flamer he has a servo harness and that has a flamer. You cannot modify a bit of wargear only replace it. so even if you could change the flamer it would replace the entire harness because they are not seperate wargear it is just one bit.

This really is not hard to grasp.

Except the servo harness entry states that the bearer is given these items, as a result of taking the harness. It doesn't say that the servo harness is comprised of these items, or even that the servo harness includes these items.

MCRobot wrote:
Except the servo harness entry states that the bearer is given these items, as a result of taking the harness. It doesn't say that the servo harness is comprised of these items, or even that the servo harness includes these items.

Problem is, the wargear list for the MotF seems to contradict this. As only a Servo Harness is listed in his wargear not all the separate weapons.

 grendel083 wrote:

MCRobot wrote:
Except the servo harness entry states that the bearer is given these items, as a result of taking the harness. It doesn't say that the servo harness is comprised of these items, or even that the servo harness includes these items.

Problem is, the wargear list for the MotF seems to contradict this. As only a Servo Harness is listed in his wargear not all the separate weapons.

Same with the scout biker.

He said it better than I did