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2013/10/29 19:17:37
Subject: FNP and on an unsaved wound effect
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Regular Dakkanaut
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So I was curious about this from what I was looking at for my chaos daemons. Multiple items in the daemon codex using the number 2 exalted gift as an example state that the daemon has to do at least 1 unsaved wound for the effect to go off. The question is if the opponent saves with FNP does the effect still go off. My reasoning is yes because FNP in itself is not a save. So the model suffered an unsaved wound which then was discarded because of FNP. Thoughts on this dakka?
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2013/10/29 19:38:05
Subject: FNP and on an unsaved wound effect
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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If it happens immediately on inflicting an unsaved wound (such as Force activation or ES) then it can be argued either way as to which occurs first (except for Force activation).
If it is something that happens at the end of the phase (such as the Black Mace area of effect), then by the time it occurs, FNP has already been rolled and the wounds count as being saved (thus no effect unless FNP failed).
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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2013/10/29 19:46:17
Subject: FNP and on an unsaved wound effect
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Regular Dakkanaut
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But the wounds are not saved. The wounds are ignored. The wound itself is still an unsaved wound. FNP is not a save so thus does not count as saving throw or a save against a wound. In terms of black mace of course, force weapons is in the errata so that part I knew for sure.
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2013/10/29 19:48:33
Subject: FNP and on an unsaved wound effect
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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icefire78 wrote:But the wounds are not saved. The wounds are ignored. The wound itself is still an unsaved wound. FNP is not a save so thus does not count as saving throw or a save against a wound. In terms of black mace of course, force weapons is in the errata so that part I knew for sure.
Re-read the last sentence of FNP.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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2013/10/29 19:49:36
Subject: FNP and on an unsaved wound effect
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Aww, I didn't see that part. That's what I needed to know thank you very much.
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