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Hey DD, hopefully I'm posting this thread in the right area and it hasn't been covered yet.

I was just curious what the feelings toward a space marine force with two chapter masters as HQ's are? Is it a faux pas to field two in the same army?

I don't do it myself but I've certainly considered it. Unless I've missed something in the codex it is certainly allowed rules wise. However, on the other hand it only makes any sort of fluffy, semi-"realistic" sense that there would only ever be one master of any chapter.

What do you guys think?

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I think this is the wrong forum for your question.

Rules wise, totally fine. It's even encouraged as you can ally two different chapters together.

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Works for me.

Clearly, the subsequent Chapter Master is a trusted Captain to badass to be represented by the Captain rules.

Alternatively, he's a trusted Marine having the finishing touches put on his training because the Administratum has chosen to create a new Space Marine chapter from his parent one, and he has been chosen to lead it.

Alter-alternatively, he's the leader of a successor chapter who happens to be rolling with his close friends the Galactic Whatevers. Since successor chapters don't need a separate FOC, it's no biggie.

S'all good.

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Yes its legal.
This should probably be in tactics.

The reason you probably don't see it is because people probably don't want one third of their army tied up in two models.

They're strong and bring a lot to the table if that's what you need, but they get dang expensive fast.

Now that I re read your post I see you probably weren't asking tactics questions. In which case I see no problems with running 2 chapter masters. Heck 3 with allies. Even fluff wise I wouldn't care.

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Fluff wise you could even justify it, say a loyalist successor of the Alpha Legion. Two chapter masters torepresents the two Primarchs.

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Not all the chapter masters die before some one takes over. Fluff wise you can have the wise and experienced former chapter master who now serves the new chapter master with complete devotion. He'd have the skill and stat line, and it makes sense he'd have the authority to call down an orbital strike.

I have run my Dark Angel models as both a Dark Angels primary detachment lead by Azreal and a counts as white scars allied detachment lead by a chapter master. Fluff wise this sits a little odd until I explain the chapter master is Merir Astelan a former chapter master who now serves in the ravenwing as a form of penance, his helmet always on and his voice ever mute so none from out side the inner circle know he is alive.
   
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Another reason you dont see it often is because you have to take a captain to access the amazingly good command squad.

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 Thaanos wrote:
Fluff wise you could even justify it, say a loyalist successor of the Alpha Legion. Two chapter masters torepresents the two Primarchs.

Or y'know, it's because you've got these guys on the field. http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1600048a

 
   
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 Portugal Jones wrote:
 Thaanos wrote:
Fluff wise you could even justify it, say a loyalist successor of the Alpha Legion. Two chapter masters torepresents the two Primarchs.

Or y'know, it's because you've got these guys on the field. http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1600048a

The only trouble is, they actually look more like veterans than Chapter Masters these days. Still incredible sculpts, but GW bling has come a long way since then.

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 Portugal Jones wrote:
 Thaanos wrote:
Fluff wise you could even justify it, say a loyalist successor of the Alpha Legion. Two chapter masters torepresents the two Primarchs.

Or y'know, it's because you've got these guys on the field. http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1600048a


Per new SM codex, they're supposed to be four of the ten captains.
   
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The White consuls have 2 chapter masters. One to run the fleet and one to run the home star system.

   
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Pretzalcoatl wrote:
 Portugal Jones wrote:
 Thaanos wrote:
Fluff wise you could even justify it, say a loyalist successor of the Alpha Legion. Two chapter masters torepresents the two Primarchs.

Or y'know, it's because you've got these guys on the field. http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1600048a


Per new SM codex, they're supposed to be four of the ten captains.


They were always captains, described in both the old Apoc book and 5th edition SM codex.

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Remember the C:SM says you can have different chapters represented in one detachment so long as they all use the same Chapter Tactics. So in one detachment you can have Pedro Kantor in all his Crimson Fist colours and some other Imperial Fist Successor in their own colours.
   
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I'm actually fielding 5 chapter masters with Magister Loth and a fully axe command squad in a Land Raider for Apocalypse. Feel no pain and it will not die on 4 wound models.. yes plese. Oh and Tigurius outside to twin link all of their orbital bombardments before they mount up turn two. Who needs a titan

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 Thaanos wrote:
Fluff wise you could even justify it, say a loyalist successor of the Alpha Legion. Two chapter masters torepresents the two Primarchs.


This was quite close to my first thought. Perhaps your snowflake Chapter is led by twins!!

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 Super Ready wrote:
 Thaanos wrote:
Fluff wise you could even justify it, say a loyalist successor of the Alpha Legion. Two chapter masters torepresents the two Primarchs.


This was quite close to my first thought. Perhaps your snowflake Chapter is led by twins!!


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