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Hey guys before I starting buying, I need your opinion what would be a good 1500/2000 purely scout army.

I wanna use just scouts/scout bikes, landspeeder storms, a srgt telion.

And what would be the best HQ/ chapter tactics to use?

twinner wrote:
Hey guys before I starting buying, I need your opinion what would be a good 1500/2000 purely scout army.

I wanna use just scouts/scout bikes, landspeeder storms, a srgt telion.

And what would be the best HQ/ chapter tactics to use?

Well, Telion limits you to Ultramarine chapter tactics, which don't exactly compliment scouts. Not useless, but not optimal, unless you allied in his squad with another HQ to free up another chapter tactic for the bulk of the force.

I'm thinking that any HQ on a bike has a lot to offer your army, riding in with scout bikers. Sorry, but you will need at least one suit of power armour, or better, but you can get the rest with scouts. My only concern is filling up those 2000 pts while using scouts, as unless you went for the most expensice loadouts for them (camo cloaks + snipers + heavy weapon), you may have issues using the points the land speeder storms well in unison. Unless you don't mind combat squading, then go at it, and build out a list you like from there.

You at the very min will want 6 of the same troops

10 man scouts with cloaks
4 snipers
1 ml
5 shotgun/pistol and ccw
Lss

Combat squad this unit.

3 max scout biker squads which for objective games I would combat squad

And for an hq I would run a captain or chapter master on bike as an elite beatstick.

Biggest problem is your lack of heavy weapons. Granted you will have 6 ml but you have nothing that is ap 1 or 2.

Scout Bikers can't take meltaguns? Might want to swap a biker squad for some Typhoons.

If I can't take telion its not the end of the world.

What would a sample 1500 list look like to you guys?

I would go something like;
Iron Hands [1435 pts]
*Chapter Master (250 pts); Eternal Shield/ Bike/ Artificer Armour/ TH

*[6x] LSS+Scouts (750 pts); LLS w/ HF, scouts w/ CC+BP, Melta Bomb, Camo Cloak

*[3x] Storm Talon Gunship (435 pts); TL Assault Cannon, Skyhammer

I would then put either a biker command squad or scout biker squads to desire. Your ability to rush an opponent should be second to very few armies. The scouts will either go first in which case you get to flame and blind the opponent or they go second in which case they have a decent chance to assault the opponent. The camo cloaks are there to give them a 4+ cover save from the wreckage of their speeder when it blows.

How does this work:
Iron Hands:

• Chapter Master (235pts)
And They Shall Know no Fear, Chapter Tactics, Independent Character, Orbital Bombardment
Artificer Armor (20pts), Bike (20pts), Power Weapon (15pts), The Shield Eternal (50pts)

4x: Combat squads (Sniper and ML stay back in infiltrate, rest load into LSS)
• Scout Squad (199pts)
And They Shall Know no Fear, Chapter Tactics, Combat Squads, Infiltrate, Move Through Cover, Scout
o Land Speeder Storm (55pts)
Deep Strike, Scouts
Cerberus Launcher, Jamming Beacon, Multi-Melta (10pts)
o Scout Sergeant (26pts)
Combi-weapon (10pts), Melta Bombs (5pts)
o Scout with Heavy Weapon (26pts)
Bolt pistol, Missile Launcher (15pts)
o Scouts (12pts)
Bolt pistol, Sniper Rifle (1pts)
o Scouts (12pts)
Bolt pistol, Sniper Rifle (1pts)
o Scouts (12pts)
Bolt pistol, Sniper Rifle (1pts)
o Scouts (12pts)
Bolt pistol, Sniper Rifle (1pts)
o Scouts (11pts)
Bolt pistol, Combat Knife
o Scouts (11pts)
Bolt pistol, Combat Knife
o Scouts (11pts)
Bolt pistol, Combat Knife
o Scouts (11pts)
Bolt pistol, Combat Knife

• Scout Bike Squad (202pts)
And They Shall Know no Fear, Chapter Tactics, Combat Squads, Infiltrate, Scouts
3x Astartes Grenade Launcher (15pts), 8x Scout Biker (144pts)
o Scout Biker Sergeant (43pts)
Power Weapon (15pts), Veteran Sergeant (10pts)

• Stormtalon Gunship (125pts)
Aerial Assault, Escort Craft, Hover Strike, Supersonic
Skyhammer Missile Launcher (15pts), Twin-Linked Assault Cannon

• Stormtalon Gunship (140pts)
Aerial Assault, Escort Craft, Hover Strike, Supersonic
Twin-Linked Assault Cannon, Twin-linked lascannon (30pts)

You should remove the points values from that to avoid potential legal issues for the forum.

Why a chapter master? Surely a techmarine would take advantage of your Iron Handness better? He could repair your speeders and stuff if they survive, too.

I don't think repairing landspeeders is an efficient use of tech-marines. With AV10-11, any squad or vehicle that has the strength to glance/pen it in the first place will probably just outright destroy it.

The value of Tech-Marines/MotF is optimal for durable, high hullpoint vehicles. Vehicles that can actually survive a round of shooting long enough to be repaired in the player's turn.

I took a look at the feedback and came up with this.

Let me know if this works.

Ultra Marines

Aegis Defense Line w/ Quad Gun

Chief Librarian Tigurius (he is going with the sniper squad)

1x Scout Squad with Telion, 1x missle, 8x Snipers, camo cloaks. (behind the aegis defense line)

3x Scout Squad with Vet Sarg w/ Power weapons and melta bombs, 4x CCW and pistol, 4x Sniper, 1x Missile (going to combat sqaud snipers infiltrate/behind Aegis defense line, and cc unit in LSS)

W/ LSS Multi Melta

1x Scout Bike Squad, Vet Sarg w/ Power weapon and melta bombs, 3x AGL. 7x scout bikers.

2x Thunder Fire Cannon (going behind the adl)

Does this work, or is my other list a better option?