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D Lord (Semp Weave, MSS)

Overlord (CCB, MSS, Warscythe)

5 x Deathmarks

5 x Warriors (N Scythe)

5 x Warriors (N Scythe)

5 x Warriors (N Scythe)

6 x Wraiths (4 w coils)

3 x Heavy Destroyers

2 x Annihilation Barge

Doom Scythe

Thoughts?

Yeah I would drop your overlord as he isn't really necessary. Get a cryptek with the ap1 leadership flamer and put him with the deathmarks. Stick them in a nightscythe and when they come in the deathmarks make him wound on a 2+ So any squad you want to mark dies basically. And try and get a 3rd barge. They are insane

Swap the overlord for another D Lord and put him with the Heavy destroyers!

Deathmarks without crypteks need more numbers to be effective, so maybe add a couple of bodies to them with the spare points.

Interesting with D Lord thought, but not sure that a mellee heavy hitter sits well in that unit. It has a defined function - turn one kill interceptor stuff. Turn two - be something to aim at while all my fliers shoot stuff...

Hey Spanking Ape! You can't have Cryptek's without a regular overlord. Destroyer Lord's can't take royal courts sadly.

Maybe I go with only one HQ and buff the Deathmarks that way AND give them a flyer. Which is better enough than another Ann Barge for the cost of only ten points more.


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D Lord (MSS, Semp Weave)

10 x Deathmarks in a Night Scythe

5 x Warriors in a Night Scythe

5 x Warriors in a Night Scythe

5 x Warriors in a Night Scythe

6 x Wraiths (4 w coils)

3 x heavy destroyers

2 x Ann Barges

Doom Scythe

Hey man, Sounds good to me, gives yourself a delete unit! Also just noticed you can drop a couple of coils off your wraiths as you really only need one or two as the melter attacks which will kill them strike at low initiative anyway.


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The purpose of the Dlord is to keep the destroyers alive. Otherwise your 180 point unit has a 3+ save and only 3 wounds.

If all you want is a distraction unit you can take 2 units of scarabs instead. Much better distraction.


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SpankingApe wrote:
Hey man, Sounds good to me, gives yourself a delete unit! Also just noticed you can drop a couple of coils off your wraiths as you really only need one or two as the melter attacks which will kill them strike at low initiative anyway.

Wat? Wraiths have a 3++ and init 2, with 2 wounds. If you charge tac marines, you'll probably lose a wraith cos they strike first. That's 35 pts. Why not spend 10 points to make the oppo strike last?

I can't help but feel even a full squad of death marks isn't going to be terribly effective especially for its cost. It's the flamer that does most of the work generally... I don't know though. If you decide to keep them let me know how it works out.

Although I used to agree with naked wraiths because honestly a tactical squad isn't going to do that much damage to you. Even a full Tac squad is only going to get 5 hits, 2-3 wounds and you should only fail one of those saves. I highly doubt you'll lose a full health wraith from tactical marines. And you will always hit before terminators. It's eh really-what worries me more are the wraith knights that will it first and potentially instagib a wraith plus all other MCs. That's the only reason I'd even consider whip coils. And even now, unless you run against a heavy MC meta I wouldn't bother.