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Hello all,
me and my friend will be going to invasion next year. Soo we decided to use the same codex (sm) and the same chapter tactics(iron hands). so the points limit is 600pts each, im handelling the ground troops. my friend will handle the flyers. so without further adoo here are the lists.

My list:
master of the forge-90
scout squad-55
scout squad-55
thunderfire cannon-100
vindicator-125
vindicator-125
aegis defence line-50
total =600

My friends list:
captain-90
tac squad-70
tac squad-70
bike squad(5 man with meltagun, flamer)=120
storm talon(lascannons)-140
stormtalon-110
600pts total whaddaya think competitive or ice cold
thanks in advance Zinogre

thanks for the replies guys

So it's a 1,200 pts game basically with double force org?

I think your list has some serious weaknesses against other potential tournament duos.

You seem like you can kill weak infantry (thunderfire) and elite infantry at close range (vindicators) but you have almost zero potential to kill monstrous creatures, whom are prevalent nowadays.

A riptide/wraithknight/flying circus will ruin your day killing you outside of your threat range or getting in your face and all you'll be able to do is put 2 or 3 wounds on it if you are lucky.

Look at my chaos daemons list for a 1,000 pts tournament

1000 Pts - Chaos Daemons Roster - Khorne Tournament

HQ:
1 Daemon Prince, 270 pts (Daemonic Flight; DG: Warp-forged Armour; DA: Daemon of Khorne; Greater Rewards x1; Exalted Rewards; Warlord)

Troops:
9 Bloodletters of Khorne, 115 pts
1 Bloodreaper (DR: Lesser Rewards x1)

9 Bloodletters of Khorne, 115 pts
1 Bloodreaper (DR: Lesser Rewards x1)

Heavy Support:
1 Soul Grinder, 165 pts (Mawcannon - Phlegm; DA: Daemon of Khorne)

1 Soul Grinder, 165 pts (Mawcannon - Phlegm; DA: Daemon of Khorne)

1 Soul Grinder, 165 pts (Mawcannon - Phlegm; DA: Daemon of Khorne)

Total Roster Cost: 995


How could your combined 1,200 pts list possibly beat this 1,000 pts list??

The soul grinders can easily destroy your vindicators from a comfortable distance. Your flyers don't show up until at least turn 2, the prince can just fly up to you without a care in the world specially if he has Iron Arm.

I think you should toss in some grav weapons on those bikes and add ways to deal with high toughness models.

A wraithknight can literally drop right on your lines and you'll never kill it. 1 wraithknight can literally kill your entire combined force if given enough turns.

thanks for the reply , tbh i ment to repost the list as my friend dropped the bikes and got a devastator squad with three missle launcher all of which have flakk missles, and the captain got dropped to a librarian
Zinogre