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Took a gander throughout couple old rule books (3rd & 4th specifically) and holy crap I forgot about how many missions and scenarios there used to be, let alone the kill team rules at the end of the 4th ed book.

What happened to things like more standardized attack and defend or variable FOCs? Is anyone else starting to feel like that 6th's repetitive missions/deployment is a little stale?

Ever read the missions in the supplements?

Yes, especially after playing FoW... I noticed a lot of the current GW stuff is actually relitively dissapointing after looking through old codices and suppliments. The old ones had a lot of inspiration, ideas and had really cool rules and characters etc. I have only properly got into 40k when 5th edition came out but ive been looking at 4th and even some 3rd edition stuff and all of a sudden 6th doesnt seem as awesome as i thought it was haha.

A little off topic but does anyone know why they dont tell you what colours to paint the models in their codices any more? And they stopped putting other factions models in codices to show battle scenes too.

Anyways on topic, FoW has a great mission setting and it really spices things up big time. But it takes a bit more time to set up in comparisson to 40k.

 Las wrote:
Took a gander throughout couple old rule books (3rd & 4th specifically) and holy crap I forgot about how many missions and scenarios there used to be, let alone the kill team rules at the end of the 4th ed book.

What happened to things like more standardized attack and defend or variable FOCs? Is anyone else starting to feel like that 6th's repetitive missions/deployment is a little stale?

The funny thing about 3rd and 4th editon and their huge range of missions was that, from my experience, most players ignored them. Tournaments tended to do their own scenario packs, and the vast majority of pick up games I had through those two editions, the other guys just wanted to play standard 'meat grinder' (kill the other guy until he is dead from it) games.

I suspect that part of it was players just not wanting to take the time to leanr the scenarios. 5th edition's rather more streamlined missions seemed to get a lot more use.


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 Swastakowey wrote:
A little off topic but does anyone know why they dont tell you what colours to paint the models in their codices any more?

Around about the time they stopped caring about the standard of their product.

Take a look at the Blood Angels codex and the number of different colour schemes in use in the studio army... Then take a look in the current Chaos Marine codex, and count the number of conversions in the gallery pages.

This isn't a company that still cares about modelling.

Well, might be a reason why the released the Battle Mission Book, Planetstrike, apocalypse; The old missions were maybe too all over the place, so they took the chance to make "spin-offs"..Plus there was missions on the codexes as well! I got a 'Defend the Shrine' mission on the old Witch-Hunter one

In addition to the standard missions in the book there are a number of Altar of War missions (which are codex specific but the option is there), supplement missions, alternate game types which have missions, FW campaign missions, and you have freedom to make your own.

I don't think the issue is a lack of missions persay, just a lack of most players wanting to use them.