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so after the extreme success of my E vs DE list, i decided to pick up some tips on a list against guardsmen. He is competetive and he likes autocannons. Alot. so i made a quick count of what i had to go against him.

farseer, bike, MoTLG, spear
Spiritseer

wraithguard w d-sycthes in waveserpent w holofields, scatter laser and shurikan cannon
wraithguard in waveserpent w holofields, scatter laser and shurikan cannon

Crimson hunter

3 war walkers w 2 heavy weapons each(cant decide)
wraithknight

now this is pretty much my standard list, with a few modifications such as
removing d-scythes from 1 squad and a extra 3 war walkers for the wraithknight
as im hoping it will be tough to deal with and it might handle their tanks

Things i have at home that i may be able to swap out
30 guardians
2 more wave serpents
dire avengers
3 warlocks
2 farseers
eldrad
1 more wraithknight
1 more crimson hunter
falcon

thanks in advance


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Well, unless your expecting a vendetta you don't really need or want a crimson hunter. Against blob guard, you can expect Bring it down! from the company command squad on his autocannon platoons. All of that TL S7 dakka is bad news for the fragile flier. It does provide some nice anti tank, but nothing that your walkers, wraithknight and serpents can't handle. On the other hand, it does come on and get the first shot, almost certain to roast a flier(guide it for max damage) or most tanks.

Another major issue is the fact you only have 2 scoring units. Wraithguard are tough, but even lasguns can bring them down in enough volume. You really need another troop choice.

On your walkers, take lances for tank duty, scatter lasers for chimeras and troops. If you take the hunter, take scatter lasers, if not, lances.

I would put 2 wraithknights in just for funsies lol and to see the look on his face. PRICELESS!!!

Robbo97 wrote:I would put 2 wraithknights in just for funsies lol and to see the look on his face. PRICELESS!!!

Dr. Serling wrote:Well, unless your expecting a vendetta you don't really need or want a crimson hunter. Against blob guard, you can expect Bring it down! from the company command squad on his autocannon platoons. All of that TL S7 dakka is bad news for the fragile flier. It does provide some nice anti tank, but nothing that your walkers, wraithknight and serpents can't handle. On the other hand, it does come on and get the first shot, almost certain to roast a flier(guide it for max damage) or most tanks.

Another major issue is the fact you only have 2 scoring units. Wraithguard are tough, but even lasguns can bring them down in enough volume. You really need another troop choice.

On your walkers, take lances for tank duty, scatter lasers for chimeras and troops. If you take the hunter, take scatter lasers, if not, lances.

was going to do 2 wraithknights but they are very points costly

serling what would you consider instead of hunter, and what scoring units should i add

Instead of a hunter, take scoring units. Maybe drop a walker to shoe in some dire avengers or guardians in a serpent. Its up to you which one.

my new list
- Farseer
o Jetbike
o Mantle of Laughing God
o Singing Halberd - 160 points
- Spiritseer - 70 points
- Wraithguard
Wave Serpent
o Heavy Weapon - 280 points
- Wraithguard
o D-scythes
Wave Serpent
o Heavy Weapon - 330 points
- Wraithknight
- War Walkers
2 Extra Members
o 2 heavy weapons Each - 210 points
- War Walkers
2 Extra Members
o 2 heavy weapons Each - 210 points



hows that, it has lots of walkers, wraithknight for killing and the cannon guard will go to objective and use conceal while in it and the d-scythes will be anti-tank squadrons because they have to be close together, or i might do it the other way with scythes in cover and cannons going tank hunting, either way i just lost cannons, holo-fields and a jet for the t8 beast. hope you like

while a good list, you stil have next to none scoring units.
you mentioned he had alot of auto cannons, and if he is smart at all he will focus down your easily killed war walkers with all of that s7 dakka.
as weird as this is for me to say, consider not bring war walkers. D:
you need troops, so maybe instead get a divenger serpent, and a wjb or ranger squad.

 ninjafiredragon wrote:
while a good list, you stil have next to none scoring units.
you mentioned he had alot of auto cannons, and if he is smart at all he will focus down your easily killed war walkers with all of that s7 dakka.
as weird as this is for me to say, consider not bring war walkers. D:
you need troops, so maybe instead get a divenger serpent, and a wjb or ranger squad.

NO WALKERS WAAAA
*grumble**grumble*

 hiveof_chimera wrote:

 ninjafiredragon wrote:
while a good list, you stil have next to none scoring units.
you mentioned he had alot of auto cannons, and if he is smart at all he will focus down your easily killed war walkers with all of that s7 dakka.
as weird as this is for me to say, consider not bring war walkers. D:
you need troops, so maybe instead get a divenger serpent, and a wjb or ranger squad.

NO WALKERS WAAAA
*grumble**grumble*

i know right...

who knows, maybe theyll work out grea, but i forsee them getting shot by auto cannons.