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I thought about vectorstrike on heldrake.
In the rulebook it sayes that when vectorstrike is made it counts as having used one of its weapon. and what i can see heldrake only got one wep.
my question is.

Can heldrake use vectorstrike and after that fire its weapon???

// Illurim

Yes, because as a flier, it can shoot up to four.

First, this should have gone in YMDC. Not a big deal.
Flyers can fire four weapons. Vector Strike counts as firing one of its weapons. This leaves it with the ability to fire 3 weapons. The fact it only has one weapon does not matter.

ah okey.
ty for answer . i want to read it as he already used hes single weapon. . that would make more sence. but the rules also say he can fire .
GW has made the rules so you can understand them in two or more ways .

=) ty.

// Illurim

No, not in this case. It states it counts as firing a weapon, but does not actually fire any specific weapon. It just reduces the total number of weapons you can then fire by one.

How does this work with FMC's like a flying Hive Tyrant with 2 TL Devourers?

I'd been playing it that vector strike is done instead of firing one of the Devourers. Just wondering if I've been doing it wrong.

No, you're right.
MCs can fire two weapons. VS takes up one weapon. You can fire one weapon.
Flyers can fire 4 weapons. VS takes up one weapon. You can fire 3 weapons. Drake only has one and one is less than 3.

 Steel-W0LF wrote:
How does this work with FMC's like a flying Hive Tyrant with 2 TL Devourers?

I'd been playing it that vector strike is done instead of firing one of the Devourers. Just wondering if I've been doing it wrong.

FMCs are not Flyers. While Flyers may fire up to four weapons, FMCs may only fire two. So when an FMC vector strikes, it is able to fire one more weapon.

Just to add here something that has never came up on here, that i have seen anyway. Is the fact that If you move over an enemy unit and vector strike it, when it comes to the shooting phase you will still not be able to shoot at that unit, as if you flew over it you are no longer facing it and so cant actualy fire backwards to hit that unit with a shooting attack.

The reason I ask this is because the Helldrake has no option for split fire, And the way the rules are written Counts as firing one of its weapons. does this mean then that you cant shoot the helldrakes baleflamer or Haydes at a different unit?

 cerbrus2 wrote:
Just to add here something that has never came up on here, that i have seen anyway. Is the fact that If you move over an enemy unit and vector strike it, when it comes to the shooting phase you will still not be able to shoot at that unit, as if you flew over it you are no longer facing it and so cant actualy fire backwards to hit that unit with a shooting attack.

The reason I ask this is because the Helldrake has no option for split fire, And the way the rules are written Counts as firing one of its weapons. does this mean then that you cant shoot the helldrakes baleflamer or Haydes at a different unit?

You do not have to target a unit you've Vector Struck(?).
Also , Helldrakes and FMC can shoot 360°,one for having a turret mounted weapon (FAQ) and the others for not being a vehicle.

 cerbrus2 wrote:
Just to add here something that has never came up on here, that i have seen anyway. Is the fact that If you move over an enemy unit and vector strike it, when it comes to the shooting phase you will still not be able to shoot at that unit, as if you flew over it you are no longer facing it and so cant actualy fire backwards to hit that unit with a shooting attack.

Heldrake's and FMCs can fire in a 360 degree arc.

The reason I ask this is because the Helldrake has no option for split fire, And the way the rules are written Counts as firing one of its weapons. does this mean then that you cant shoot the helldrakes baleflamer or Haydes at a different unit?

Re-read the Vector Strike rules.

Cerbrus - while it counts as firing a weapon, you have never fired a weapon at the unit you struck with VS - you never shooting-Target them.

As such you can VS unit A and shoot unit B, as long as you have LOS to unit B - you are not bound to attempt to shoot t unit A

Just wait until the next FAQ that allows Heldrakes to VS more than one unit because GW hasn't sold enough of those and CSM need another bone.