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Hello! I'm new to 40k and new to the Dakka forums. I just wanted to get some advice on my army lists and see if there is anyway to improve it. Any Suggestions would be really helpful!




+++ Zulisity's Chaos Army (1997pts) +++
+++ 2000pt Codex: Chaos Daemons 2013, Chaos Space Marines 6th Ed +++

Selections:

Codex: Chaos Daemons 2013 (Allied Detachment) Selections:

+ HQ + (295pts)

* Daemon Prince (295pts)
(Daemonic Instability, Deep Strike)
Exalted Daemonic Reward ,Daemonic Flight, Warp-forged Armour,
* Daemon of Slaanesh


+ Troops + (185pts)

* Daemonettes of Slaanesh (185pts)

Alluress (5pts), 20x Daemonettes (180pts)


+ Heavy Support + (180pts)

* Soul Grinder of Chaos

Phlegm Bombardment
* Daemon of Nurgle


Chaos Space Marines 6th Ed (2012) by SN (Primary Detachment) Selections:

+ HQ + (165pts)

* Chaos Lord

Mark of Nurgle
* Terminator Armour
Combi-bolter, The Black Mace


+ Elites + (558pts)

* Noise Marines

Noise Marine w/ Blastmaster , 9x Noise Marine w/ Sonic Blaster
* Chaos Rhino
Combi-bolter, Searchlight, Smoke launchers
* Noise Champion
(Champion of Chaos)
Bolt Pistol, CCW, Doom Siren


* Noise Marines
(Fearless, Mark of Slaanesh)
Noise Marine w/ Blastmaster , 9x Noise Marine w/ Sonic Blaster
* Noise Champion
(Champion of Chaos)
Bolt Pistol, CCW


+ Troops + (444pts)

* Plague Marines (Troops) (252pts)
7x Plague Marine, Plasma Gun
* Chaos Rhino
Combi-bolter, Searchlight, Smoke launchers
* Plague Champion
Bolt Pistol, Combi-flamer, -melta, -plasma


* Plague Marines (Troops)
7x Plague Marine
* Plague Champion
Bolt Pistol, CCW


+ Fast Attack + (170pts)

* Heldrake
baleflamer

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Some forum mods frown upon listing individual points costs.. I'd edit them away.

That is a very interesting combination.

If you can, maybe:

-Double up on 2x Special Weapons with Plague Marines. Plasma is best because it takes advantage of their ability to take 2x SW with less than 10 fellas and also they have FnP for the overheat rolls (if any).

-Don't worry about combi-weapons on champions. Let the basic squad special weapon holders deal with that.

-Don't mix Blastmasters and Sonic Blasters together because they're designed to engage two different types of targets.

-The Terminator Lord with MoN looks like he will just be sitting with the foot-slogging Plague Marines.. Good opponents will make sure he never sees combat. So, you can drop the Black Mace. Here's my train of thought (forgive me because it's done in my head without the Codex, but I think it's right):

1.) Drop all Noise Marines
2.) Drop PM Combi-weapon
3.) Drop Black Mace
4.) Add 10 NM w/ Sonic Blaster x9, Power Sword, Doom Siren, Rhino
5.) Add 10 NM w/ Blastmaster x2, Power Sword, Doom Siren, Rhino

That gives you

*two champions who will be I5 with a power sword since they have to issue/accept challenges anyway and who has a Strength 5 AP 3 flamer.

*2 blastmasters that can fire from the hatch in their Rhino while not wasting Sonic Blaster shots (because there are none in that unit)

 Brometheus wrote:

4.) Add 10 NM w/ Sonic Blaster x9, Power Sword, Doom Siren, Rhino
5.) Add 10 NM w/ Blastmaster x2, Power Sword, Doom Siren, Rhino

So I would make my chaos lord mark of slaanesh rather than nurgle?
Also with the noise marines just have them all have regular bolters? ( the noise marines that dont have sonic blasters)

Thank you for helping out!

Oops I forgot to mention a critical upgrade- BOTH those units have Icon of Excess and so have feel no pain. Yes, bolters are fine on the 2x Blastmaster unit. That unit is really there to be a Fearless thorn in a Space Marine player's side. Be warned- the rhino is a liability for them. If the vehicle is stunned, they can't even snap shot those Blastmasters. They might be better off just being deployed.

The Nurgle Terminator lord is fine for a Warlord. He's durable enough to not be insta-gibbed by a power fist because of his toughness 5 and can weather some small arms fire if his unit dies. Regarding the lord's mark... it comes down to which units you want assaulting and which you want holding objectives.. I'd say the Noise Marines are better because they should be shooting at max potential (ie: not moving). Then, you'll have Plague Marines trying to dislodge enemy units and should be moving up with either plasma or melta. Lots of options here.