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2013/11/14 19:25:25
Subject: shadow in the warp
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Regular Dakkanaut
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When in range of shadow in the warp do you have to pass the psychic test on the 3d6 or is the extra die only there for a perils chance.
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2013/11/14 19:26:53
Subject: shadow in the warp
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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Read the SitW rule, it's pretty clear how it works.
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2013/11/14 19:27:05
Subject: shadow in the warp
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Kelne
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It matters for the psychic test, with extra chances of perils
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2013/11/14 19:39:11
Subject: shadow in the warp
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Regular Dakkanaut
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so psykers are pretty much useless against tyranids
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2013/11/14 20:03:17
Subject: shadow in the warp
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
Grand Rapids Metro
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sykl wrote:so psykers are pretty much useless against tyranids
Yes...when within 12" of a synapse creature...which is about 15% of the time unless you're GKs.
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2013/11/14 20:36:11
Subject: shadow in the warp
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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The only game my Tzeentch Daemons have ever had a draw was against Tyranid, and that list has one PML4, five PML3s, and several PML1s
So it's not an auto-win for the nids; but yes, it was my closest game ever with that list.
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LVO 2017 - Best GK Player
The Grimdark Future 8500 1500 6000 2000 5000
"[We have] an inheritance which is beyond the reach of change and decay." 1 Peter 1.4
"With the Emperor there is no variation or shadow due to change." James 1.17
“Fear the Emperor; do not associate with those who are given to change.” Proverbs 24.21 |
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2077/08/20 06:06:40
Subject: shadow in the warp
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sykl wrote:so psykers are pretty much useless against tyranids
Not really, you have about a 50% chance of success with a LD 10 psyker. And you do not perils as often as you might think.
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2013/11/14 23:52:54
Subject: shadow in the warp
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Tunneling Trygon
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Perilling on a double 1 or double 6 is still pretty unlikely to happen.
I know as I play a friend who uses a Tzeentch Heavy Daemon List...
LD7 (+3) on 3d6.
Fether ALWAYS seems to get a 1, 2 and 6.... Never Fails. Never Perils.
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Grimtuff wrote: GW want the full wrath of their Gestapo to come down on this new fangled Internet and it's free speech.
A Town Called Malus wrote: Draigo is a Mat Ward creation. They don't follow the same rules as everyone else.
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2013/11/14 23:59:56
Subject: shadow in the warp
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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 Bloodhorror wrote:Perilling on a double 1 or double 6 is still pretty unlikely to happen.
I know as I play a friend who uses a Tzeentch Heavy Daemon List...
LD7 (+3) on 3d6.
Fether ALWAYS seems to get a 1, 2 and 6.... Never Fails. Never Perils.
That's nothing. Numerous times against Nids I've had to deal with a Psychic Null Zone. Ld5 on 3D6...1,2,2 almost every dang time...
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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2013/11/15 00:02:42
Subject: shadow in the warp
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Tunneling Trygon
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Psychic Null Zone?
What is this mystical thing of which you speak?
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Grimtuff wrote: GW want the full wrath of their Gestapo to come down on this new fangled Internet and it's free speech.
A Town Called Malus wrote: Draigo is a Mat Ward creation. They don't follow the same rules as everyone else.
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2013/11/15 00:08:30
Subject: shadow in the warp
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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It is in the big rulebook. There is a section called Warzone Traits. 2d6 to get a trait, Psychic Null Zone makes so all Psychic powers are cast at half Leadership, so Farseers (normally Ld 10) would cast powers on Ld 5.
I'm just really glad that the guy doesn't use Deahtleaper. Psychic Tests on Ld2 is just mean.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/11/15 00:09:16
Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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2013/11/15 04:00:44
Subject: Re:shadow in the warp
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Tea-Kettle of Blood
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I just looked through the glossary and there isn't anything called "Warzone Traits", could you give me a page number?
Also, you guys complaining about Shadow in the Warp, be glad we don't have to deal with board-wide Runes of Warding rolling 3d6 and causing perils on any 12+
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/11/15 04:03:38
 Ailaros wrote:You know what really bugs me? When my opponent, before they show up at the FLGS smears themselves in peanut butter and then makes blood sacrifices to Ashterai by slitting the throat of three male chickens and then smears the spatter pattern into the peanut butter to engrave sacred symbols into their chest and upper arms.
I have a peanut allergy. It's really inconsiderate.
"Long ago in a distant land, I, M'kar, the shape-shifting Master of Chaos, unleashed an unspeakable evil! But a foolish Grey Knight warrior wielding a magic sword stepped forth to oppose me. Before the final blow was struck, I tore open a portal in space and flung him into the Warp, where my evil is law! Now the fool seeks to return to real-space, and undo the evil that is Chaos!" |
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2013/11/15 05:27:06
Subject: shadow in the warp
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Warzone traits are on page 368 and 369.
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2013/11/15 05:53:29
Subject: Re:shadow in the warp
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Tea-Kettle of Blood
Adelaide, South Australia
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Ah, in the creating homebrew missions section.
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Ailaros wrote:You know what really bugs me? When my opponent, before they show up at the FLGS smears themselves in peanut butter and then makes blood sacrifices to Ashterai by slitting the throat of three male chickens and then smears the spatter pattern into the peanut butter to engrave sacred symbols into their chest and upper arms.
I have a peanut allergy. It's really inconsiderate.
"Long ago in a distant land, I, M'kar, the shape-shifting Master of Chaos, unleashed an unspeakable evil! But a foolish Grey Knight warrior wielding a magic sword stepped forth to oppose me. Before the final blow was struck, I tore open a portal in space and flung him into the Warp, where my evil is law! Now the fool seeks to return to real-space, and undo the evil that is Chaos!" |
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2013/11/15 05:53:54
Subject: shadow in the warp
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Courageous Silver Helm
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Fragile wrote:sykl wrote:so psykers are pretty much useless against tyranids
Not really, you have about a 50% chance of success with a LD 10 psyker. And you do not perils as often as you might think.
Amen to that, its so true, I have only had 3 games against tyranids with my new eldar and two of the games I was at 50% mark on failing but with no perils. 1 of the games both my Farseer and Spiritseer dominated on their psychic tests. I passed 90% of my powers rolling the 3d6 only one was a perils and my spirit seer took it like a champ. Seriously the tyranid player claimed he never seen anyone pass 4 psychic tests in a row on 3d6. It will probably never happen to me again that's why it's a memory lol 
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/11/15 05:55:31
Yeah...it's kinda like that. |
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2013/11/15 07:06:03
Subject: Re:shadow in the warp
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Hoary Long Fang with Lascannon
Finland
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 PrinceRaven wrote:
Also, you guys complaining about Shadow in the Warp, be glad we don't have to deal with board-wide Runes of Warding rolling 3d6 and causing perils on any 12+
Indeed, that s**t was broken from day 1. I can't believe people had the nerve to complain about Rune Priest bubbles. Guess Eldar weren't very common before their current FotM-phase. 
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2013/11/15 08:32:27
Subject: shadow in the warp
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Youre joking, when that book came out the flying circus was king. You could, literally., not kill a single model playing against that army.
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