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So I have been playing 40k with a couple of friends every Tuesday and the allocation and LOS rules for casualties are giving us headaches. What's the actual way to do this sort of thing? In the example I'll use a typical round of fire on a couple of our units.

Sisters Squad, ten strong, with VSIS and a Priest. Assume the unit firing/swinging at them is A (let's say necron warriors with Lord), the Sisters are S, the Vet is V and the Priest C.

A A
A L A
A A A
A A A
A

SS
PS
VSSS
SSS
S

Necrons fire and do pretty well, scoring eleven wounds versus T3. Now, do I:

Allocate all wounds to eleven separate models, thereby excluding the last Sister in the back, then make LOS rolls for the Vet and Priest. Assuming they make their rolls, one wound will carry over to the sister in the rear and another will take two wounds, now proceed to saves.

Now, what if the Priest fails the LOS roll? He uses his own (invulnerable) save, correct?

What has happened in some of our games (which I'm pretty sure isn't right) is that in the above example, let's say the Sisters had a Plasma Priest who gets lucky and hits twice without melting down, and a HB sister as well. The order of fire is: Bolters (eight wounds, dropping five crons), Plasma, two more down, then HB causes three more wounds, at this point in the allocation:

A
A A
A L
A




SS
PS
VSSS
SSS
S

So the Lord opts to forego LOS and shrug off the wound with his superior armor save, taking a hit with no wound. Now, does he get to do this again for a second wound, or do the remaining two shots kill two more necron warriors?

This edition overall makes me pretty happy but the mixed saves and taking casualties from the front stuff in conjunction can be very annoying when trying to figure it out while two players are a few beers in. Thanks!

In these sorts of situations, wounds are resolved one at a time. So, the next closest model doesn't take hits until the closest model is dead. LookOutSir! deflects wounds - one at a time - from the character while they're closest model, but the character will have to go right on making LOS! rolls and/or saves as long as they're still alive and still the closest model.

In your case, once the Lord took the wound, all remaining wounds will be allocated to him. He can attempt to LOS any wound away if he chooses. So if he makes the first LOS, that wound is allocated to a warrior (who has to make a save if possible), then the second wound is allocated to the Lord, which he make decide to keep, and then the third wound is allocated to the Lord and he can LOS the third wound if he wants.

LOS is a bit of a badly worded rule, i will explain as best as i can

Whenever there is a character in a squad, you MUST use mixed saves for allocation etc. If the character is in the middle of the unit, and 5 guys are in front of him, then you roll for those five first. So you take 5 armour saves, if 2 die, then you roll another 3 dice for the remaining three guys, if another dies, roll another 2 saves from the wound pool and so on.

When you reach the character, wounds that are allocated to him can instead be allocated to a nearby member of the unit on a roll of a 4+, or a 2+ if they are an IC. If the roll is successful, the other model takes the wound, and rolls HIS saves instead. If you fail the test, then the character takes the wound as normal. Each wound allocated to the character must be resolved one by one. Continue like this until there are no more wounds in the pool or everyone in your squad is dead

Hope i helped.


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Also always remember, LOS must be taken BEFORE the character makes saving rolls, or you wont get it.

Sounds like I've more or less been thinking right. Once everyone dies in front, start making LOS. Just awkward with mass fire sometimes and it makes my friends annoyed. We may house rule this to only happen in OW where it seems to make sense, just to avoid the nerd rage.