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Is there any way to do a competitive list with Thunder Wolf Cav? Thanks for your time, I'd love some assistance making a 2k list with Thunderwolf Cav that can also win its games. Maybe something with Canis and using Fenrisian Wolves as troops? Lots and lots of beasts.

Hey mate !!!

No there is no way to make a full Thundewolf Cav list which will also be competitive. Canis sucks big time for its point cost and the fenrisians are too fragile and cant capture objectives.
The thing you can do is make a squad of Thuderwolves (4 to 5) with 2SS and a PF and add a thunderwolf lord with TH/SS/SOB/RA/2xfenrisian or two lords and fill your troops with GH in Pods.
Use the pods as anvil in your opponents deployment zone and the T-wolves as a hammer. With thunderwolves you go big or you go home because they are fire magnets and if you have average save rolls you ll do fine. I used a lord as described above along with 4 T-wolves with 2SS and a PF and killed mordrak,libby inTDA, 4 Ghost knights, 10 Strike squad with psybolt ammo, and a nemesis dread knight and lost only a fenrisian wolf. With T-wolves you either kick your opponets teeth in or you ll get your @ss handed over to you dramaticaly, there is no middle situation.

PS: they are my favorite unit

Have fun, Cheers!!!

Hey, thanks for the response, Lonewolf. What about anyway to do Space Wolves without Drop Pods? I'm really not a huge fan of them personally.

you could always go rhinos with grey hunters and go right up with the wolves behind them and a couple of fenrisian wolves infront of them to make live a bit easier
i would look ideally at something like,
wolf lord - thunderwolf mount, wolf claw, storm shield, wolf tooth necklace maybe 2 wolves if the points permit. I like saga of the warrior born. things get really crazy.
3 x grey hunters with rhinos. flamers and meltas in eachs squad.
the thunderwolf calvery with storm shield and if you want a thunder hammer.
then fenrisian wolves

of course alter to the amount of points you have but that covers most points. personally i would have a long fang squad in just to help you get knock anything nasty out.

I cant understand why you dont like pods , anyway

The GHs must have a transport,so rhinos,which will also screen the T-wolves as mentioned from the lightning wolf lord. Also longfangs for heavy support camped in ruins for backfield missile barage with some lascannon flavour is an excellent choice. Speed the rhinos 12" towards opponent in cover if possible and keep the T-wolves behind them. Following turn if rhinos survive dissembark and rapid fire otherwise move and rapid fire supported by the T-wolves. If you go panzer style wolves (meaning you are using rhinos) you can use preds and vindies for heavy support because the rhino wall will provide cover for them first turn, your choice. The best pred build imho is twinlinked autocannon with las sponsors. Also if you go for vindies always take 2 and shoot the flank that T-wolves arent charging . As for antiflier defence i d go the allies road or risk it and ignore them.

And always use ap2 weapons on lord cause you ll wish everytime you are in a challenge with an ap3 weapon that it was ap2 and init1 instead

in a challenge yes but the purpose of the wolf lord i use is to trample through squads and get the attacks up with the saga and then if anything with a large amount of wounds jumps him ill laugh with 10+ attacks and rerolling hits or wounds (mainly wounds as ill be hitting on a 3+ regardless.

ive never used a pred but i agree that loadout would be best. but i would say that a long fang squad is better as you have more options and can split fire as long as the sergent stays alive. as far as it goes with flyers i dont have an issue as 100% of the time im in my enemies face as i drop pod in with GH and RP and if im feeling mean some lovely dreads.

the main idea behind your TWC is to make sure they either have something infront so nothing can see them or having a wall of wolves to help them get into the enemy and cause mayham and death.

if you make a list put it up and im sure we can help you make an alterations to help keep the list functional and fun

Do you mean Autocannon/2x Lascannons?

looking at it i believe so yes as the lascannons wouldbe on the side of the pred and the twin linked autocannon on the top.

I don't like drop pods because everyone uses them, I hate assembling them, and honestly they aren't that great of a model in my opinion.

its the meta at the moment for space wolves as it allows us to tie up guys and forces your opponent to think more about what they are going to do. They arent always needed rhinos are reasonable especially for the kind of list that you want will work with rhinos. personally i wouldnt use a pred for just heavy support, i prefer to use long fangs as they do the job and can split fire as i mentioned before. personally i say go rhinos and longfangs and the rest wolves, wolves and more wolves, and just be clever with the way you position your guys behind your rhinos if you choose to use that tactic

I've been chewing on a list all morning and I'm pushed to ask here this "Hammer & Anvil" idea, Thunderwolves backing up Drop Pod Grey Hunters, Wolf Lord on a Thunderwolf with a TH/SS.

That TWC unit with 2 SS and a PF is mighty expensive at 4-5 models. Ultimately, I *want* to be running that unit, it sounds absolutely awesome, but I'm trying to maintain the core of my army and fit that unit in, cutting fat somewhere.

Right now I'm running

Fortification - ADL - TL Quadgun

Rune Priest - Runic Armor, Chooser (goes on the Quad Gun)
Wolf Lord - with your loadout

4x Grey Hunter(10) with Wolf Standard all in Drop Pods.2 have double Plasma 2 have double Melta.

3 x Long Fang Units - two 5 x ML units, one 2 x ML, 3 x LC unit. One gets a Drop Pod (makes 5)

2 Razorbacks with TL Lascannons.

I'm trying to shed 255 points to cut back to a 2k. Problem is, I'm losing significant things for those 255 points and I feel like I'm diluting my core for a 50/50 unit.

Any suggestions for something like this?

I would remove the razorbacks as you already have lascannons in the long fangs and you wont be transporting them anywhere most of the time. That saves you 150pts. The other points id say remove the adl. I know its important in a large amount of games but I think 15 longfangs might be able to deal with 3-4 flyers. You could combine that with storm caller. You would need to drop a grey hunter to give space to your rune priest. Another thought... how would living lightning do against flyers? Might be worth a test run. You could put your priest in a longfang pack then

yeah i agree drop the razorbacks they arent needed. im currently at work so i cant recommend amounts unit wise but if your going hammer and anvil you will want to have the fast attack in there. the ADL can be dropped also as stated above the long fangs will do what they need to surprisingly well. i would say scatter your plasma and meltas in your squads to try and cut back on the costs i dont know how much a plasma and a melta is upgrade wise off the top of my head but you might just be able to shave some points by spreading them across your units. you have the right idea with 5 drop pods as then 3 will drop on your first turn. wolf lord good choice if your struggling putting in 2 SS on the cavalry just use the 1 and then have him in front to take the fire with a couple of fenrisian wolves if possible. just extra attacks and cover saves if needed against any fire at the TWC. for the most part your opponent will be busy dealing with your dropped grey hunters pumping shots and the wolf standard will make your life easier in combat. apart from that the list looks good. when i get home later ill write up and list of what i can make at 2k points for this kind of list and see what you think

Personally I don't like the list it's pretty boring, maybe take out some long fangs and a squad of GH to add more thunder wolves

i apologise i keep forgetting to look at creating a list for this.
It would look something like this off the top of my head so the numbers may be a bit off.

Rune priest - (no upgrades)
Wolf Lord - (loadout specified previously)

3 x 10 grey hunters 1x melta and plasma in each. Drop pod each

3 x 5 long fangs - 3ML, 2Las. 2x 5ML

2x dreadnoughts in pods - 2 x TL Las.

2 x 3 thunderwolf cavelry - SS and TH, SS and Power axe

if im right should then have around 200 points spare my maths could be completely wrong but as i say its of the top of my head.

i wouldnt go with a quad gun as you have enough long fangs to bring down fliers i brought down a heldrake with one longfang squad so i shouldnt see an issue with 3 of them and the rune preist can help with living lightning