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This is the list I have so far. It is going to be a theme army so it needs to be kept as it is really. The theme is basically Dark Eldar who like to kill people and Eldar who are already dead (except the SpiritSeer but there isn't much I can do about him!!.

I want to try and keep the list as close to what is it at the moment in theme. I have 122 PTS left to play with and don't know what to take.

I could probably fit in a Fire Prism or Nightspinner with a Shuriken Cannon if I can find 3 PTS from somewhere (perhaps drop the NS off the Ravagers). Or I could perhaps fit in a Wraithlord for some more dead person action.

The list is open to change in a number of places, would like some help from the Dakka crew to change it up a little.

Please note...

> Dissies on the Ravagers need to stay there. I have great plans for 27x S5 AP2 Shots...
> Wraithguard are my Vehicle killing units.


HQ
Archon
SpiritSeer

Troops
5x Kabalite Warriors - Venom (SC)
5x Kabalite Warriors - Venom (SC)
5x Wraithguard (Wraithcannons) - Wave Serpent (SC, TLSL)
5x Wraithguard (Wraithcannons) - Wave Serpent (SC, TLSL)

Elites
4x Kabalite Trueborn (ShardCarbines) - Venom (SC)
5x Wraithguard (Wraithcannons) - Wave Serpent (SC, TLSL)

Heavy Support
1x Ravager (FF, NS, 3x Disintegrator)
1x Ravager (FF, NS, 3x Disintegrator)
1x Ravager (FF, NS, 3x Disintegrator)

Can you take 10 wraiths AND still buy a serpent for them knowing they can't

Spelling error, meant to be 5 Wraithguard

Fixed...

A naked archon offers nothing to your list. If you want an archon for theme, that's totally fine but you need to take something on em. For a mech list, you could take a shadowfield, blaster and venom blade. Affordable all round build. You don't really have any assault units and a single tricked out CC con is not adding anything.

Overall your list is critically low on heavy AT. If you insist on 3 dissie ravagers you need some blasters. One for each kabbie squad, and 3-4 for the trueborn. Yes, wraithcannons can work but they need to be close, and get out of the serpents meaning 1-2 turns without them.

You can't take wraithguard as elite if you take a spiritseer. It turns them to troops and they can no longer be an elite choice.

warren0110 wrote:
Can you take 10 wraiths AND still buy a serpent for them knowing they can't

Yes!

Okay so how about this... Comes out at 1846 PTS

HQ
Archon - Blaster, Venom Blade, Ghostplate Armor, Shadow Field
SpiritSeer

Troops
5x Kabalite Warriors - Venom (SC)
5x Kabalite Warriors - Venom (SC)
5x Wraithguard (Wraithcannons) - Wave Serpent (SC, TLSL)
5x Wraithguard (Wraithcannons) - Wave Serpent (SC, TLSL)

Elites
4x Kabalite Trueborn (Blasters) - Venom (SC)
4x Kabalite Trueborn (Blasters) - Venom (SC)

Heavy Support
1x Ravager (FF, NS, 3x Disintegrator)
1x Ravager (FF, NS, 3x Disintegrator)
1x Ravager (FF, NS, 3x Disintegrator)
1x Wraithlord - Scatter Laser, Bright Lance, Ghostglaive, Dual Flamers

Im not too worried about getting into range with the Wraithguard as I will just flat out the Wave Serpents first turn.

As far as the DE are concerned, I don't know if you need both FF and NS. I would just drop one upgrade from all three Ravagers, and put those points into blasters for your warriors.

I never leave home without both. They are necessary upgrades on all DE ships in my opinion.

Played a friend today with my usual DE list and slaughtered him because he couldn't get in range with any of his guns.

Aside from CC my DE are perfect. I was hopeful the Eldar allies would help with that.

Maybe I am looking at this wrong.